On 11/11/2019 08:42, Lee Lofaso -> Terry Roati wrote:
LL> * It is the NC's duty/obligation to make the Nodelist available to me.
Nope - it is the NC's duty to make the nodelist available TO THE NODES IN
HIS?HER NET. Users are not in the picture.
LL> * It is the NC's duty/obligation to provide me with copies of the
LL> FidoNet newsletter.
See above.
LL> * It is the NC's duty/obligation to provide FidoNet information to me.
See above.
LL> * It is the NC's duty/obligation to take me in and out of the Nodelist,
LL> as appropriate.
Only after you have completed the appropriate application procedure.
LL> * It is the NC's duty/obligation to promote FidoNet.
LL> Promoting FidoNet is also a responsibility of all Sysops. But I take
LL> it every Sysop already knows that.
LL> Nothing about P4 in any of the above.
LL> No loyalty oath or pledge allegiance anywhere to be found.
That is laid out in Policy4. Most NC's base their procedures on that document.
Whether you think the document is valid or not does not matter to them - it is
what THEY think with regards to their system/net.
LL> The basis of FidoNet is "anarchy". Tom Jennings liked to call it
LL> "cooperative anarchy" as his own way of saying things. While he liked
LL> to think of himself as being the "founder" of FidoNet, it was really
LL> more of a group effort, with himself playing only a minor role.
Tom Jenning's model for Fidonet did not happen. Fidonet has moved beyond his
odd ideas.
[...]
LL> In order for me to obtain a node number, it is my understanding
LL> that I need two things, and two things only -
LL> 1. I must ask for a FidoNet address VIA NETMAIL to whoever the hell
LL> my NC is or might be.
You have to find out who your NC is first - Policy tells us that one does that
by downloading a (recent) copy of the nodelist from somewhere and pouring over
that.
Have you taken that step yet?
LL> 2. I would have to reoeive that NC's response VIA NETMAIL (during
LL> NetMail Hour) which will include my Node Number response.
LL> See there? P4 is irrelevant! Just a piece of cyberjunk!
The above procedure WORKS. What part of the above two steps are you not
understanding?
LL> Now all I have to do is find the NC to send a netmail.
LL> FidoNet Zone1 Region18
LL> I think the NC is AWOL ...
Region,18,SE_US_&_Caribbean_(2019/001),AL_FL_GA_MS_NC_SC_TN_PR,mark_lewis,-Host
,116,Tennessee_Net,Nashville_TN,Danny_Walters,1-615-752-5770,9600,CM,MO,XA,V34,
INA:116-116.dynu.net,IBN,ITN,PING
Host,123,R18_Orphans_(2019/001),central_NC_USA,mark_lewis,-Unpublished-,300,XA,
CM,INA:sestar.synchro.net,IBN,PING
Host,135,Sunshine_State_Net,Gainesville_FL,Eric_Renfro,-Unpublished-,300,CM,MO,
XW,INA:hub.deckersheaven.com,IBN,ITN,PING
Host,3634,North_Carolina_USA_(2019/001),central_NC_USA,mark_lewis,-Unpublished-
,300,XA,CM,INA:sestar.synchro.net,IBN,PING
Although the copy of the nodelist I've referenced is not the latest the one I
have shows 4 NCs in Region 18. They show as "Host".
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Regards
David
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