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echo: philos
to: WILLIAM ELLIOT
from: DENNIS MENARD
date: 1997-12-31 10:30:00
subject: Re: NAFTA

 -[ Quoting William Elliot , to Dennis Menard ]-
 DM> :(  When one "negotiates" with a superpower, the superpower has a
 DM> tendency to negotiate, thus: Negotiate? Sure. We want -- and -- and --!
 DM> However, if we don't get it, we're going to take our ball and go home.
 WE> Let them.  Now if they said 'gimme or will take -your- ball and go
 WE> home.'
Yes; that's been done too.  But there's little one can do when the only law
recognized by a superpower is it's own (ie, Int'l Law becomes irrelevant).
 DM> Once upon a time, superpowers used to be called Empires.  The Romans
 DM> had an empire; then the British had one ... not as long, though.  Now
 DM> the U.S. has one, though we call it a superpower.  Question: How long
 DM> will it last?  And what will replace it?  :)
 WE> The sun never sets on the British Empire?  Now here's my plan.  Briton
 WE> obtains a colony in the land of the midnight sun and Briton obtains a
 WE> colony down under again in the other land of the midnight sun.
:)  Yes; that's been done.  However, it doesn't address the longevity of the
empire, does it?
 DM> Nothing applies to Quebec except what Quebec wants applied to it.  And
 DM> even they don't know what that is: half want this ... the other half
 DM> wants that. :)  :)  Trying to explain Quebec (unless you're a
 DM> Quebecois) is rather like proving the existence of God.  :)
 WE> Schizophrenia?
Right; Canada and Quebec, both.  :)
 DM> Medical Association seems to have assumed the same general position
 DM> as its U.S. counterpart regarding Preemies.  What is different is the
 DM> public medical system in Canada vs the private one in the U.S.
 WE> What?  I thought you have a one payer health care system.  How does
 WE> this make a difference about treating of premies?
Concern about costs is effectively made irrelevant; there is no extra money
to be made by hospitals using heroic, or special, measures keeping lives of
questionable viability alive.
 DM> A few months ago, a doctor (New Brunswick, I think) was charged with
 DM> MURDER of one of her patients (ie, a mercy-killing).  I've heard
 DM> nothing recently. I'll see if I can do a follow-up.
 WE> Our famed doctor has been charged many times and they couldn't find a
 WE> jury that would convict him.
Yes; but Kervorkian worked "outside" the medical community, did he not?  The
case in New Brunswick involved a doctor treating her patient in hospital.
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