Hello Terry,

 LL>> Since the terms of the agreement (P4) are impossible to fulfill
 LL>> or too vague to understand, that makes the agreement (P4) voidable
 LL>> in and of itself.

 TR> Makes me wonder how the 30,000+ fido and ex fido sysops were able to do it
 TR> and only YOU can't?

Some folks are born stupid.

 TR> David tried to help and explain things to you in simple english, yet you
 TR> still can't understand?

Like I said, some folks are born stupid.

 TR> Looks like you will never be a Sysop.

This is from ** The Big Dummy's Guide to Fidonet ** -

That's the "NC" He's the HOST of the network. The word "host" was
carefully chosen in the beginnings of FidoNet to get away from
authoritarian overtones. His responsibilities are to coordinate FidoNet
within the network. NC's often do lots of things that are beyond what
they have to do. But they only are required to do a few things. Here's
what they are:

The NC is supposed to make the Nodelist available to you. We'll talk
about the Nodelist below. He's supposed to provide you with copies of
"The Snooze," which is the slang name of the weekly FidoNet newsletter.
He's supposed to provide FidoNet information to you. And he's supposed
to take you in and out of the Nodelist, as appropriate. He's also
supposed to promote FidoNet, but that's a responsibility of all Sysops.

That's just about all, period. Further, he has to make this stuff
available, but he doesn't have to send it to you. You have to go get it
unless he decides it would be easier to send it to you instead. You
shouldn't be costing your NC any extra money. If you need access to
FidoNet services, it's on your dime. You get to make the call. That
way, you don't have to be rich to serve in a HOST capacity.

But frankly, NC's spend a lot of money on your behalf anyway. That's
just how this whole thing works. You can't expect, really, to run a BBS
without spending some money. It's the same with a NC. He will never
break even unless, perhaps, a big Net incorporates and gets very
official about the whole thing. There are "Sugar Daddies" in FidoNet
who will provide free services to a network. These guys are either
independently wealthy or they can somehow write it off, but this is
very rare, as you might expect. It's a gift.

                         -=end clip=-

* It is the NC's duty/obligation to make the Nodelist available to me.

* It is the NC's duty/obligation to provide me with copies of the
FidoNet newsletter.

* It is the NC's duty/obligation to provide FidoNet information to me.

* It is the NC's duty/obligation to take me in and out of the Nodelist,
as appropriate.

* It is the NC's duty/obligation to promote FidoNet.

Promoting FidoNet is also a responsibility of all Sysops.  But I take
it every Sysop already knows that.

Nothing about P4 in any of the above.
No loyalty oath or pledge allegiance anywhere to be found.

The basis of FidoNet is "anarchy".  Tom Jennings liked to call it
"cooperative anarchy" as his own way of saying things.  While he liked
to think of himself as being the "founder" of FidoNet, it was really
more of a group effort, with himself playing only a minor role.

Anarchy is not chaos.  It is a political ideology.  But how to use
it effectively takes genius.  A stable genuius such as Donald Trump.
Fortunately for FidoNet, he turned to Twitter instead.

As defined in ** The Big Dummy's Guide to Fidonet ** -

We tend to define "anarchy" as disarray, but what it really
means is "without order."  Translated to the veracular, anarchism
means that no one gets to tell you what to do, period.  Government
is unnecessary because it is intrusive and authoritarian.  The
founder of FidoNet doesn't have a job.

                     -=end clip=-

What are the technical specifications needed to obtain a node number?

In order for me to obtain a node number, it is my understanding
that I need two things, and two things only -

1. I must ask for a FidoNet address VIA NETMAIL to whoever the hell
my NC is or might be.

2. I would have to reoeive that NC's response VIA NETMAIL (during
NetMail Hour) which will include my Node Number response.

See there?  P4 is irrelevant!  Just a piece of cyberjunk!

Now all I have to do is find the NC to send a netmail.

FidoNet Zone1 Region18

I think the NC is AWOL ...

--Lee

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Often Licked, Never Beaten

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