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Nope-it just shows that when faced when proving something you know you =
can't prove, you attack the poster.=20
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:42cb1088{at}w3.nls.net...
     Only one counter example is required to disprove a false assertion. =
 Maybe you should give yourself a refresher on basic logic.

  Rich

    "Randy"  wrote in message news:42cb0191{at}w3.nls.net...
    2 datapoints out of millions is statistically insigificant, =
therefore insufficient. Since you have failed to prove you assertion, =
this thread ends.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:42cab5ea{at}w3.nls.net...
         If proof is insufficient they you will never be satisfied.  You =
may as well join mike miller in his spin.

      Rich

        "Randy"  wrote in message news:42ca8208{at}w3.nls.net...
        Still insufficient.=20
          "Rich"  wrote in message news:42ca00ea{at}w3.nls.net...
             Proof by example.  People here other than I have done it.  =
Haven't you?

          Rich

            "Randy"  wrote in message news:42c9d965{at}w3.nls.net...
            Sice you haven't proven it the answer is still no.

            "Rich"  wrote in message news:42c9b036{at}w3.nls.net...
                 The answer to his question is yes so by your definition =
it is also spin, spin, spin.

              Rich

                "Randy"  wrote in message
news:42c9748c{at}w3.nls.net...
                It's not spin if this does happen. So far, you haven't =
proven that it doesn't.
                  "Rich"  wrote in message =
news:42be01f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
                     Spin, spin, spin.  How very typical mike miller.

                  Rich

                    "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message =
news:jsvrb1lgj40fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78{at}4ax.com...

                    Yup.  The question is: can you install Windows on a =
PC that is connected
                    to the internet via broadband, and get that system =
patched before it is
                    infested?

                      /m

                    On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400, "Tony Ingenoso" =

                    wrote:

                    >So?  That means nothing if they're exploited within =
a matter of minutes
                    >anyway.
                    >
                    >"Rich"  wrote in message =
news:42bde926$1{at}w3.nls.net...

                       Did you read the article lead in that was posted. =
 Let me quote it again

                      For thousands of Internet users, the offer seemed =
all too alluring: revealing pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available at a =
mere click of the mouse.

                      But the pictures never appeared. The offer was a =
ruse, and the click downloaded software code that turned the user's =
computer into a launching pad for Internet warfare.


                    Whether or not people reinstall or use firewalls =
makes no difference when users go out of their way to infect themselves. =
 Antivirus and antispyware applications that use rules to block user =
action can help here but those won't block something they don't know =
about and if they do warn the user and require confirmation likely many =
users will approve that just as they confirmed their action when warned =
for the initial download attempt.

                    Rich
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Nope-it just shows that when faced when proving =
something you=20
know you can't prove, you attack the poster. 

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42cb1088{at}w3.nls.net...
     Only
one counter example =
is required=20
  to disprove a false assertion.  Maybe you should give yourself a=20
  refresher on basic logic.
   
  Rich
   
  

    "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42cb0191{at}w3.nls.net...
    2 datapoints out of millions is statistically=20
    insigificant, therefore insufficient. Since you have failed to prove =
you=20
    assertion, this thread ends.
     
    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42cab5ea{at}w3.nls.net...
    

         If proof is =
insufficient they=20
      you will never be satisfied.  You may as well join mike =
miller in his=20
      spin.
       
      Rich
       
      

        "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42ca8208{at}w3.nls.net...
        Still insufficient. 
        

          "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42ca00ea{at}w3.nls.net...
            
Proof by =
example. =20
          People here other than I have done it.  Haven't =
you?
           
          Rich
           
          

            "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42c9d965{at}w3.nls.net...
            Sice you haven't proven it the
answer is =
still=20
            no.
             
            "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42c9b036{at}w3.nls.net...
            

                 The answer =
to his=20
              question is yes so by your definition it is also spin, =
spin,=20
              spin.
               
              Rich
               
              

                "Randy" <{at}> wrote in
message news:42c9748c{at}w3.nls.net...
                It's not spin if this does happen. =
So far, you=20
                haven't proven that it doesn't.
                

                  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in
message news:42be01f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
                     Spin, =
spin,=20
                  spin.  How very typical mike
miller.
                   
                  Rich
                   
                  
                    "Mike '/m'" <mike{at}barkto.com>">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>
wrote=20
                    in message news:jsvrb1lgj40=
fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78{at}4ax.com...Yup. =20
                    The question is: can you install Windows on a PC =
that is=20
                    connectedto the internet via broadband, and get =
that=20
                    system patched before it =
isinfested? =20
                    /mOn Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30
-0400, "Tony=20
                    Ingenoso" <admin{at}spamcop.net>wrote:=">mailto:admin{at}spamcop.net">admin{at}spamcop.net>wrote:=
>So? =20
                    That means nothing if they're exploited within a =
matter of=20
                   
minutes>anyway.>>"Rich"
=
<{at}> wrote=20
                    in message news:42bde926$1{at}w3.nls.net...=

                       Did =
you read the=20
                    article lead in that was posted.  Let me quote =
it=20
                    again
                     
                    

                      For thousands=20
                      of Internet users, the offer seemed all too =
alluring:=20
                      revealing pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available at =
a mere=20
                      click of the mouse.
                       
                      But the=20
                      pictures never appeared. The offer was a ruse, and =
the=20
                      click downloaded software code that turned the =
user's=20
                      computer into a launching pad for Internet=20
                     
warfare.
                     
                    Whether or not =
people reinstall=20
                    or use firewalls makes no difference when users go =
out of=20
                    their way to infect themselves.  Antivirus and=20
                    antispyware applications that use rules to block =
user action=20
                    can help here but those won't block something they =
don't=20
                    know about and if they do warn the user and require=20
                    confirmation likely many users will approve that =
just as=20
                    they confirmed their action when warned for the =
initial=20
                    download attempt.
                     
                    Rich

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