From: "Rich" 

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C58144.F83C7C80
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

   If proof is insufficient they you will never be satisfied.  You may =
as well join mike miller in his spin.

Rich

  "Randy"  wrote in message news:42ca8208{at}w3.nls.net...
  Still insufficient.=20
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:42ca00ea{at}w3.nls.net...
       Proof by example.  People here other than I have done it.  =
Haven't you?

    Rich

      "Randy"  wrote in message news:42c9d965{at}w3.nls.net...
      Sice you haven't proven it the answer is still no.

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:42c9b036{at}w3.nls.net...
           The answer to his question is yes so by your definition it is =
also spin, spin, spin.

        Rich

          "Randy"  wrote in message news:42c9748c{at}w3.nls.net...
          It's not spin if this does happen. So far, you haven't proven =
that it doesn't.
            "Rich"  wrote in message news:42be01f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
               Spin, spin, spin.  How very typical mike miller.

            Rich

              "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message =
news:jsvrb1lgj40fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78{at}4ax.com...

              Yup.  The question is: can you install Windows on a PC =
that is connected
              to the internet via broadband, and get that system patched =
before it is
              infested?

                /m

              On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400, "Tony Ingenoso" =

              wrote:

              >So?  That means nothing if they're exploited within a =
matter of minutes
              >anyway.
              >
              >"Rich"  wrote in message
news:42bde926$1{at}w3.nls.net...

                 Did you read the article lead in that was posted.  Let =
me quote it again

                For thousands of Internet users, the offer seemed all =
too alluring: revealing pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available at a mere =
click of the mouse.

                But the pictures never appeared. The offer was a ruse, =
and the click downloaded software code that turned the user's computer =
into a launching pad for Internet warfare.


              Whether or not people reinstall or use firewalls makes no =
difference when users go out of their way to infect themselves.  =
Antivirus and antispyware applications that use rules to block user =
action can help here but those won't block something they don't know =
about and if they do warn the user and require confirmation likely many =
users will approve that just as they confirmed their action when warned =
for the initial download attempt.

              Rich
------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C58144.F83C7C80
Content-Type: text/html;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable








   If proof
is insufficient =
they you will=20
never be satisfied.  You may as well join mike miller in his=20
spin.
 
Rich
 

  "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42ca8208{at}w3.nls.net...
  Still insufficient. 
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42ca00ea{at}w3.nls.net...
       Proof by =
example.  People=20
    here other than I have done it.  Haven't you?
     
    Rich
     
    

      "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42c9d965{at}w3.nls.net...
      Sice you haven't proven it the answer
is still =

      no.
       
      "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42c9b036{at}w3.nls.net...
      

          
The answer to his =
question is=20
        yes so by your definition it is also spin, spin, =
spin.
         
        Rich
         
        

          "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42c9748c{at}w3.nls.net...
          It's not spin if this does
happen. So far, =
you=20
          haven't proven that it doesn't.
          

            "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42be01f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
               Spin, spin, =
spin. =20
            How very typical mike miller.
             
            Rich
             
            
              "Mike '/m'" <mike{at}barkto.com>">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>
=
wrote in=20
              message news:jsvrb1lgj40=
fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78{at}4ax.com...Yup. =20
              The question is: can you install Windows on a PC that is=20
              connectedto the internet via broadband, and get that =
system=20
              patched before it isinfested?  =
/mOn Sat,=20
              25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400, "Tony Ingenoso" <admin{at}spamcop.net>wrote:=">mailto:admin{at}spamcop.net">admin{at}spamcop.net>wrote:=
>So? =20
              That means nothing if they're exploited within a matter of =

             
minutes>anyway.>>"Rich"
<{at}> =
wrote in=20
              message news:42bde926$1{at}w3.nls.net...=

                 Did you read =
the article=20
              lead in that was posted.  Let me quote it =
again
               
              
                For =
thousands of=20
                Internet users, the offer seemed all too alluring: =
revealing=20
                pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available at a mere click of =
the=20
                mouse.
                 
                But the=20
                pictures never appeared. The offer was a ruse, and the =
click=20
                downloaded software code that turned the user's computer =
into a=20
                launching pad for Internet=20
             
warfare.
               
              Whether or not people =
reinstall or=20
              use firewalls makes no difference when users go out of =
their way=20
              to infect themselves.  Antivirus and antispyware =
applications=20
              that use rules to block user action can help here but =
those won't=20
              block something they don't know about and if they do warn =
the user=20
              and require confirmation likely many users will approve =
that just=20
              as they confirmed their action when warned for the initial =

              download attempt.
               
              Rich

------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C58144.F83C7C80--

--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5