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2 datapoints out of millions is statistically insigificant, therefore =
insufficient. Since you have failed to prove you assertion, this thread =
ends.

"Rich"  wrote in message news:42cab5ea{at}w3.nls.net...
     If proof is insufficient they you will never be satisfied.  You may =
as well join mike miller in his spin.

  Rich

    "Randy"  wrote in message news:42ca8208{at}w3.nls.net...
    Still insufficient.=20
      "Rich"  wrote in message news:42ca00ea{at}w3.nls.net...
         Proof by example.  People here other than I have done it.  =
Haven't you?

      Rich

        "Randy"  wrote in message news:42c9d965{at}w3.nls.net...
        Sice you haven't proven it the answer is still no.

        "Rich"  wrote in message news:42c9b036{at}w3.nls.net...
             The answer to his question is yes so by your definition it =
is also spin, spin, spin.

          Rich

            "Randy"  wrote in message news:42c9748c{at}w3.nls.net...
            It's not spin if this does happen. So far, you haven't =
proven that it doesn't.
              "Rich"  wrote in message
news:42be01f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
                 Spin, spin, spin.  How very typical mike miller.

              Rich

                "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message =
news:jsvrb1lgj40fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78{at}4ax.com...

                Yup.  The question is: can you install Windows on a PC =
that is connected
                to the internet via broadband, and get that system =
patched before it is
                infested?

                  /m

                On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400, "Tony Ingenoso" =

                wrote:

                >So?  That means nothing if they're exploited within a =
matter of minutes
                >anyway.
                >
                >"Rich"  wrote in message =
news:42bde926$1{at}w3.nls.net...

                   Did you read the article lead in that was posted.  =
Let me quote it again

                  For thousands of Internet users, the offer seemed all =
too alluring: revealing pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available at a mere =
click of the mouse.

                  But the pictures never appeared. The offer was a ruse, =
and the click downloaded software code that turned the user's computer =
into a launching pad for Internet warfare.


                Whether or not people reinstall or use firewalls makes =
no difference when users go out of their way to infect themselves.  =
Antivirus and antispyware applications that use rules to block user =
action can help here but those won't block something they don't know =
about and if they do warn the user and require confirmation likely many =
users will approve that just as they confirmed their action when warned =
for the initial download attempt.

                Rich
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2 datapoints out of millions is statistically =
insigificant,=20
therefore insufficient. Since you have failed to prove you assertion, = this=20
thread ends.
 
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42cab5ea{at}w3.nls.net...

     If
proof is insufficient =
they you=20
  will never be satisfied.  You may as well join mike miller in his =

  spin.
   
  Rich
   
  

    "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42ca8208{at}w3.nls.net...
    Still insufficient. 
    

      "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42ca00ea{at}w3.nls.net...
         Proof by =
example.  People=20
      here other than I have done it.  Haven't you?
       
      Rich
       
      

        "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42c9d965{at}w3.nls.net...
        Sice you haven't proven it the answer is =
still=20
        no.
         
        "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42c9b036{at}w3.nls.net...
        

            
The answer to =
his question=20
          is yes so by your definition it is also spin, spin, =
spin.
           
          Rich
           
          

            "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42c9748c{at}w3.nls.net...
            It's not spin if this does happen. So =
far, you=20
            haven't proven that it doesn't.
            

              "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42be01f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
                 Spin, spin, =
spin. =20
              How very typical mike miller.
               
              Rich
               
              
                "Mike '/m'" <mike{at}barkto.com>">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>
=
wrote in=20
                message news:jsvrb1lgj40=
fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78{at}4ax.com...Yup. =20
                The question is: can you install Windows on a PC that is =

                connectedto the internet via broadband, and get that =
system=20
                patched before it
isinfested?  =
/mOn=20
                Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400, "Tony Ingenoso"
<admin{at}spamcop.net>wrote:=">mailto:admin{at}spamcop.net">admin{at}spamcop.net>wrote:=
>So? =20
                That means nothing if they're exploited within a matter =
of=20
               
minutes>anyway.>>"Rich"
<{at}> =
wrote in=20
                message news:42bde926$1{at}w3.nls.net...=

                   Did you =
read the=20
                article lead in that was posted.  Let me quote it=20
                again
                 
                
                  For =
thousands of=20
                  Internet users, the offer seemed all too alluring: =
revealing=20
                  pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available at a mere click =
of the=20
                  mouse.
                   
                  But the=20
                  pictures never appeared. The offer was a ruse, and the =
click=20
                  downloaded software code that turned the user's =
computer into=20
                  a launching pad for Internet=20
               
warfare.
                 
                Whether or not people =
reinstall or=20
                use firewalls makes no difference when users go out of =
their way=20
                to infect themselves.  Antivirus and antispyware=20
                applications that use rules to block user action can =
help here=20
                but those won't block something they don't know about =
and if=20
                they do warn the user and require confirmation likely =
many users=20
                will approve that just as they confirmed their action =
when=20
                warned for the initial download attempt.
                 
                Rich

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