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   Only one counter example is required to disprove a false assertion.  =
Maybe you should give yourself a refresher on basic logic.

Rich

  "Randy"  wrote in message news:42cb0191{at}w3.nls.net...
  2 datapoints out of millions is statistically insigificant, therefore =
insufficient. Since you have failed to prove you assertion, this thread = ends.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:42cab5ea{at}w3.nls.net...
       If proof is insufficient they you will never be satisfied.  You =
may as well join mike miller in his spin.

    Rich

      "Randy"  wrote in message news:42ca8208{at}w3.nls.net...
      Still insufficient.=20
        "Rich"  wrote in message news:42ca00ea{at}w3.nls.net...
           Proof by example.  People here other than I have done it.  =
Haven't you?

        Rich

          "Randy"  wrote in message news:42c9d965{at}w3.nls.net...
          Sice you haven't proven it the answer is still no.

          "Rich"  wrote in message news:42c9b036{at}w3.nls.net...
               The answer to his question is yes so by your definition =
it is also spin, spin, spin.

            Rich

              "Randy"  wrote in message
news:42c9748c{at}w3.nls.net...
              It's not spin if this does happen. So far, you haven't =
proven that it doesn't.
                "Rich"  wrote in message =
news:42be01f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
                   Spin, spin, spin.  How very typical mike miller.

                Rich

                  "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message =
news:jsvrb1lgj40fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78{at}4ax.com...

                  Yup.  The question is: can you install Windows on a PC =
that is connected
                  to the internet via broadband, and get that system =
patched before it is
                  infested?

                    /m

                  On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400, "Tony Ingenoso" =

                  wrote:

                  >So?  That means nothing if they're exploited within a =
matter of minutes
                  >anyway.
                  >
                  >"Rich"  wrote in message =
news:42bde926$1{at}w3.nls.net...

                     Did you read the article lead in that was posted.  =
Let me quote it again

                    For thousands of Internet users, the offer seemed =
all too alluring: revealing pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available at a =
mere click of the mouse.

                    But the pictures never appeared. The offer was a =
ruse, and the click downloaded software code that turned the user's =
computer into a launching pad for Internet warfare.


                  Whether or not people reinstall or use firewalls makes =
no difference when users go out of their way to infect themselves.  =
Antivirus and antispyware applications that use rules to block user =
action can help here but those won't block something they don't know =
about and if they do warn the user and require confirmation likely many =
users will approve that just as they confirmed their action when warned =
for the initial download attempt.

                  Rich
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   Only one
counter example =
is required=20
to disprove a false assertion.  Maybe you should give yourself a =
refresher=20
on basic logic.
 
Rich
 

  "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42cb0191{at}w3.nls.net...
  2 datapoints out of millions is statistically =
insigificant,=20
  therefore insufficient. Since you have failed to prove you assertion, =
this=20
  thread ends.
   
  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42cab5ea{at}w3.nls.net...
  

       If proof is =
insufficient they you=20
    will never be satisfied.  You may as well join mike miller in =
his=20
    spin.
     
    Rich
     
    

      "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42ca8208{at}w3.nls.net...
      Still insufficient. 
      

        "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42ca00ea{at}w3.nls.net...
           Proof by =
example.  People=20
        here other than I have done it.  Haven't
you?
         
        Rich
         
        

          "Randy" <{at}> wrote in message news:42c9d965{at}w3.nls.net...
          Sice you haven't proven it the answer is =
still=20
          no.
           
          "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42c9b036{at}w3.nls.net...
          

               The answer to =
his question=20
            is yes so by your definition it is also spin, spin,=20
            spin.
             
            Rich
             
            

              "Randy" <{at}> wrote in
message news:42c9748c{at}w3.nls.net...
              It's not spin if this does happen. So =
far, you=20
              haven't proven that it doesn't.
              

                "Rich" <{at}> wrote in
message news:42be01f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
                   Spin, =
spin,=20
                spin.  How very typical mike
miller.
                 
                Rich
                 
                
                  "Mike '/m'" <mike{at}barkto.com>">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>
wrote in=20
                  message news:jsvrb1lgj40=
fibn8e53pkn96m98oos4p78{at}4ax.com...Yup. =20
                  The question is: can you install Windows on a PC that =
is=20
                  connectedto the internet via broadband, and get =
that=20
                  system patched before it
isinfested?  =

                  /mOn Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:27:30 -0400,
"Tony =
Ingenoso"=20
                  <admin{at}spamcop.net>wrote:=">mailto:admin{at}spamcop.net">admin{at}spamcop.net>wrote:=
>So? =20
                  That means nothing if they're exploited within a =
matter of=20
                 
minutes>anyway.>>"Rich"
<{at}> =
wrote=20
                  in message news:42bde926$1{at}w3.nls.net...=

                     Did you =
read the=20
                  article lead in that was posted.  Let me quote it =

                  again
                   
                  
                    For =
thousands of=20
                    Internet users, the offer seemed all too alluring: =
revealing=20
                    pictures of Jennifer Lopez, available at a mere =
click of the=20
                    mouse.
                     
                    But the=20
                    pictures never appeared. The offer was a ruse, and =
the click=20
                    downloaded software code that turned the user's =
computer=20
                    into a launching pad for Internet=20
                   
warfare.
                   
                  Whether or
not people =
reinstall=20
                  or use firewalls makes no difference when users go out =
of=20
                  their way to infect themselves.  Antivirus and=20
                  antispyware applications that use rules to block user =
action=20
                  can help here but those won't block something they =
don't know=20
                  about and if they do warn the user and require =
confirmation=20
                  likely many users will approve that just as they =
confirmed=20
                  their action when warned for the initial download=20
                  attempt.
                   
                  Rich

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