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echo: fidonews
to: DAVID DRUMMOND
from: LEE LOFASO
date: 2019-09-26 20:26:00
subject: The Rules

Hello David,

 NA>> I'm trying to illustrate that Fido is a small enough network where
 NA>> there does not need to be trolls, or nannies enforcing rules.

 DD> That is your opinion. Others' may vary. And as yet I've not seen any
nannies
 DD> enforcing any rules. The fact is that echo rules in Fidonet are not
 DD> enforceable - the "moderators" are but paper tigers.

Everybody likes to play god.  But there are no gods.  Except in one's
own universe.  Whatever that might be.

 NA>> We should be mature enough to co-exist and not have someone running NA>a
 DD> "free speech" system, because only to prove that he can, and NA>where the
 DD> sole output is trolling.

 DD> And we should also be mature enough to ignore shit we don't want to read.

There are those who do not wish to accept reality.  Others question
if reality exists, or can exist.  OTOH, just because someone may think
that something is real does not make it so.  Such as Santa Claus, the
Tooth Fairy, or Lee Lofaso.

 NA>> I can "prove" I can usurp the Fidonews echo. Totally and thoroughly
 NA>> trash it and *nobody* will want to ever connect to it again. Do I
 NA>> need to prove it? Many Sysops will likely tell me, "no". Why? NA>Because
 DD> I'm not a dick... I respect my fellow Sysops enough that NA>I do not need
 DD> to prove Free Speech.

 NA>> That is why the troll needs to go. Its not a free speech thing. NA>Its a
 DD> you're pissing off your fellow Sysops and tarnishing the NA>enjoyment of
 DD> Fido thing.

 DD> Is the troll not entitled to enjoyment too? You are only the "ghod" on
your
 DD> system - not on mine, not on any nodes in Zone 2.

Trolls just want to have fun.  Same as everybody.  That is why there
is no difference between trolls and sysops.

 NA>> Many popular Internet social media or chat sites have clear NA>policies
 DD> against trolling, some ISP's have them as well. Why NA>should Fido be any
 DD> different?

 DD> Fidonet is not Internet Social Media.

Why not?

 DD> Each of those entire sites is managed by one entity.

So?

 DD> Fidonet is NOT an entity -

Why not?

 DD> it is a technical agreement by a bunch of individuals.

Where can I find this "technical agreement"?

 DD> We are all omnipotent - on our own systems only.

Does that mean I am free to do my own thing?

 DD> You are free to implement a "no trolls" edict on YOUR system.

Hooray!  I have nothing to lose but my chains!

                  

I am free at last!  Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

 DD> You don't have that power on any others.

Trolls need to be fed in order to survive.
That is why we share what we have with others.
Works wonders for us all.

Thanks for the chaincutters.

--Lee

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Big Or Small We Lay Them All

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