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Why do you think Sarbanes-Oxley was passed?=20
  "Geo"  wrote in message
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  the guys at eeye believe making exploits public knowledge lowers the =
value thus the cost that security companies can charge customers for = that
knowledge.

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:42d6d8ee$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       No.  I consider this irresponsible.   For all we know folks at =
eeye do too but greed trumps responsibility.

    Rich

      "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:42d6befe{at}w3.nls.net...
      So you consider this responsible behavior?

      Geo.
        "Rich"  wrote in message news:42d6a0c1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
           Where do you get this taboo nonsense?  Look at =
http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615A.html and =
http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615B.html.  These = are
among the simplest but by far not the only.  eeye appears to try to =
provide instructions to exploit in all of these.  If you are going to be =
in denial about this behavior of theirs then no wonder you are in denial =
about the damage they cause.

        Rich

          "Geo"  wrote in message =
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          But instead he want's evidence that the exploits eeye has =
discovered over
          the past year or so are dangerous, and since exploit code is =
now taboo that
          becomes quite difficult to prove doesn't it?


          Geo.


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Why do you think Sarbanes-Oxley was passed? =


  "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:42d70ed8{at}w3.nls.net...
  the guys at eeye believe making =
exploits public=20
  knowledge lowers the value thus the cost that security companies can =
charge=20
  customers for that knowledge.
   
  Geo.
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42d6d8ee$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      
No.  I consider =
this=20
    irresponsible.   For all we know folks at eeye do too but =
greed=20
    trumps responsibility.
     
    Rich
     
    

      "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
      wrote in message news:42d6befe{at}w3.nls.net...
      So you consider this
responsible=20
      behavior?
       
      Geo.
      

        "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:42d6a0c1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
          
Where do you get =
this taboo=20
        nonsense?  Look at ht=">http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615A.html">ht=
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        and ht=">http://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615B.html">ht=
. =20" target="new">tp://www.eeye.com/html/research/advisories/AD20040615B.html. =20
        These are among the simplest but by far not the only.  eeye =
appears=20
        to try to provide instructions to exploit in all of these.  =
If you=20
        are going to be in denial about this behavior of theirs then no =
wonder=20
        you are in denial about the damage they cause.
         
        Rich
         
        
          "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote =
in message=20
          news:42d696e9$1{at}w3.nls.net...But=20
          instead he want's evidence that the exploits eeye has =
discovered=20
          overthe past year or so are dangerous, and since exploit =
code is=20
          now taboo thatbecomes quite difficult to prove doesn't=20
          =
it?Geo.

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