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from: Stefan
date: 2009-12-26 04:06:46
subject: Re: Is there a B5 eqilvalent to the word `Trekkie`?

On 24 Dez., 19:25, Matt Ion  wrote:
> On 22/12/2009 4:06 AM, Joseph DeMartino wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 22, 3:31 am, Matt Ion  wrote:
>
> >> Once TNG took Trek out of the "geek" realm and made
it mainstream fare,
> >> someone somewhere decided that it would no longer do for the new,
> >> larger, Mom-and-Pop fanbase to be labeled with a
quasi-derogatory title,
> >> and thus the term "Trekker" (big "T") was
coined to appease the PC
> >> sensibility.
>
> > Nonsense.  "Trekker" (capitalized or not) long
pre-dates "ST:TNG".  I
> > should know - I was there. The term was coined by older,moe serious
> > and mostly male, "Trek" fans who wanted to distinguish
themselves from
> > the "true" "trekkies" who were largely seen
as 13 year old girls with
> > crushes on Mr. Spock.  The latlter did embrace
"trekkie" as a label,
> > in part because it sounded cute.  The former rejected it for the same
> > reason.  And all long before "TNG" (or any of the
feature films) were
> > a gleam in Paramount's eye.  (I remember "trekkie" vs.
"trekker"
> > arguments at the 2nd and 3rd New York "Trek"
conventions in the early
> > 70s, and in fanzines before that.)
>
> > Interesting theory, it just has nothing to do with the actual events.
>
> I stand corrected then; I'd never heard the term before TNG took off and
> the term was adopted by fans who disliked being lumped in with those
> "trekkie geeks".
-- Footnote --
Robert Wise ("Star Trek - The Movie" director) in an '79-interview(*):
that he didn't knew "Star Trek" before and that he viewed the whole
series "And now I'm a trekkie" he ended.
And he isn't a 13yearold girl, obviously. ;-)
Stefan
('*) Source: book about StarTrek; I don't know for sure, if that
Robert Wise interview is a special of one of the ST-The Movie-DVDs.
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