lsend...{at}hotmail.com wrote:
> gpatton{at}bayou.com wrote:
>
> >
> > The reason I put "With God all things are possible!" in
parentheses
> was
> > because I was quoting the teachings of others, and I thought those
> > teachings had merit. You have pointed out limits that they did not
> > mention. Here is what they said:
> >
> > Matthew 19:26
> > Mark  10:27
> > Mark 14:36   And he said, "Abba, Father, all things are possible to
> > thee; remove this cup from me; yet not what I will, but what thou
> > wilt."
> >
> Kenosis.  I personally do not think Jesus operated consciously with
any
> of His divine attributes.   The context is the garden and the
impending
> death.  What is more human than to cry that such an avenue be
> by-passed.  But the plan of God has no tangential alternative paths
> because there is no chance behind God.  What has been decreed will be
> seen to fruition.  The is why the Christian is invited to pray in The
> Name, a title.  We seek not our own will, but the revealed will of
God
> which has been determined since before the foundation of the world.
>
> > 18:27But he said, "What is impossible with men is possible with
God."
> >
> > Perhaps you, can find some compromise with Matthew, Mark and Luke
> where
> > you all can be in agreement on this important issue?
> >
> Context.  It cannot be stressed enough.  The context of these
parallel
> passages are not touching upon the immutability of God or His decree.
> "For I the YHVH donot change" (Mal 3:6); "Jesus Christ, the same
> yesterday and today, yes and forever," (Heb 13:8).
>
> When the scriptures seem to indicate that God changes His mind, it is
> an anthropomophic statement.  Nothing catches God by surprise because
> He is not chronological.  He stands outside of the space-mass-time
> continuum.  That everything stands before Him as an ever present,
that
> is, never past or future, to write that "the LORD changed His mind"
> (Ex. 32:14;
> Jer. 26:19; Amos 7:3, 6) is to use a figure of speach to relate His
> ways to men.  God does not really change His mind for He knows the
> hearts of men and is never caught unawares.
>
> But again, you do not address the theological import of your premise.
> God cannot act contrary to His own nature.  Therefore, the age old
> theological mind play, "Can God make a rock too large that even He
> cannot lift it."  Though the suggestion appears silly, the theology
> behind it is serious.  In fact, this is a current trend in theology
> today, to discuss whether God limits His omniscience.

You have a point there. I do not find Matthew, Mark or Luke discussing
the point of God limiting (or not limiting) his omniscience.  Perhaps,
if someone with your understanding of God had been able to influence
them, they would not have made the mistake of saying, "...with God all
things are possible." Perhaps they should have said, "...with God all
insignificant things are possible".

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