> Come on Bart, you're smarter than this reply.  If you don't know
> (internal) anything about the object in which one has placed his
> faith, then how can he place his faith in that object to begin with.
> You confuse notitia with exhaustive understanding.


So first you assert that faith needs an object.  Then you
contradict yourself by saying "place his faith".  It's clear
that you think that faith is a substance that a man carries
around inside him (even though he has no object) and then
when he finds a worthy object, he can then take this
substance and "place it" in the object.

If faith needs an object, then the phrase "place faith in"
makes no sense.


> Bart, the rest of your rebuttal is illogical.  One must first conceive
> a thing before one can move toward it.  One is not saved simply by
> turning away.  One must also turn toward.

One is saved because Christ moves.  Once again, your self-righteous
theology rears its ugly head.  We don't save ourselves by
moving toward God.  As long as you cling to salvation-by-works,
you will continue to make these nonsense statements.

Bart

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