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In article , David Glenn Misner says... > > > >Do we REALLY have free will or is it an illusion? Yes, we do. > My dad says we >really do not have free will Is he a Calvinist? > but I say that we do but I can't find any >place in the Bible that says we do Not in so many words, no. But it _is_ implied. So, for example, as St. Augustine so brilliantly explains in De Gratia et Libero Arbitrio, whenever Scripture records God giving Man a commandment, Scripture is implying that we have free will. You can find De Gratia et Libero Arbitrio in a rather old-fashioned English translation on the web at http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1510.htm I will only quote the opening of Chapter 2 here, since that most directly addresses your question: Begin quote------------- CHAP. 2 --PROVES THE EXISTENCE OF FREE WILL IN MAN FROM THE PRECEPTS ADDRESSED TO HIM BY GOD. Now He has revealed to us, through His Holy Scriptures, that there is in a man a free choice of will. But how He has revealed this I do not recount in human language, but in divine. There is, to begin with, the fact that God's precepts themselves would be of no use to a man unless he had free choice of will, so that by performing them he might obtain the promised rewards. For they are given that no one might be able to plead the excuse of ignorance, as the Lord says concerning the Jews in the gospel: "If I had not come and spoken unto them, they would not have sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin." Of what sin does He speak but of that great one which He foreknew, while speaking thus, that they would make their own--that is, the death they were going to inflict upon Him? For they did not have "no sin" before Christ came to them in the flesh. End quote----------------- -- --------------------------- Subudcat se sibi ut haereat Deo quidquid boni habet, tribuat illi a quo factus est. (St. Augustine, Ser. 96) ((( s.r.c.b-s is a moderated group. All posts are approved by a moderator. ))) ((( Read http://srcbs.org for details about this group BEFORE you post. ))) --- UseNet To RIME Gateway {at} 1/19/05 10:35:22 PM ---* Origin: MoonDog BBS þ Brooklyn,NY 718 692-2498 (1:278/230) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 5030/786 @PATH: 278/230 10/345 106/1 2000 633/267 |
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