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to: JOHN PERZ
from: A. MARTIN
date: 1996-08-15 17:39:00
subject: .45 predudice

John Perz wrote in a message to A. Martin:
 JP> He carried a 9mm Luger throughout the war and thought it was
 JP> just great. 
Without the opportunity for comparison, I suppose so.  The Luger toggle 
action, to my knowledge, is still the fastest pistol action around.  The 
Luger is a joy to shoot and I would love to have one in my modest collection. 
 I swapped for a Browning P35 overseas.  Very accurate, good heft, tough, 
nice magazine capacity. With my last three rounds: groin, chest, neck shot 
placements didn't slow a VC, I never carried it again.  Both my father and 
uncle were in WW2.  I thought I was going to get killed stateside when I 
related the story!  Both were on my case for foolishly carring a 9mm sidearm 
into combat instead of a .45.  If Charlie hadn't run out of ammo that day, I 
probably wouldn't be typing this.
In the civilian world, selection of warm to hot pistol loads can make the 9 
into a decent weapon.  Something I haven't seen written here is that some 
European loads are hotter than ours.  For example, many of their .32acp and 
9mm pistol loads have more zip.  Penetration is a factor; but we shouldn't 
forget the .30 Luger's lack of stopping power.
 JP> He also thought my Isocoles stance was silly - one handed 
 JP> shooting, ala a target stance was the way to go, according to 
 JP> him.
At my first military pistol range outing, some old sergeants were lined up in 
the classic one-handed stance.  They thought they were too cool.  Watching me 
dump clips with rapidity, these warhorses started to ridicule.  I only 
chuckled and told them to put their money where their mouths were.  I was 
inducted into the pistol team.  Combat shooting has since made advances. 
Because it is in a book or on a video does not make it right.  I was teaching 
an Army Captain pistolcraft.  After a few sessions, he brought a Jeff Cooper 
video tape out.  On the video, Cooper continually put a loose round into the 
chamber of his .45 via the ejection port and let the slide slam home.  This 
abuses the ejector and _will_ bend or break it in time.  There were a number 
of other examples evidencing Cooper's lack of understanding; however, the man 
is considered an "expert."  It was good to see Cooper's video not listed in 
Dillon's later Blue Press catalogs.  Take Care.
Adieu,
               Sarge 
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