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from: `zach` victorthecleaner{at}
date: 2005-01-21 18:31:00
subject: Re: Study of the Last Days\Tribulation

Bart Goddard wrote:
> wrote:
>
> >> If faith needs an object, then the phrase "place faith in"
> >> makes no sense.
> >>
> > ???????  Is it a blind spot with you?  Is it hidden or is it
blocked?
> > Your logic or reasonability is, to be kind, faulty.
>
> So you think that if something is too difficult for you
> to understand then it must be illogical?  That's not what
> most people use the word "illogical" for. (And the 50 students
> to whom I'm teaching logic to this semester 1. would disagree
> that my logic is faulty and 2. know tons more about logic than
> you do.)
>
> It should be clear that it is a flat contradiction when you
> assert:
>
> 1.  Faith needs an object in order to exist.
>
> and
>
> 2.  Faith is self-existant, so that it need no object,
>    but when one finds a worthy object, one has a pile
>    of faith (which up to now has no object) which he
>    can now place into that worthy object.
>
> On one hand you say that a person can't just have
> a disembodied "trust", but must, instead "trust
> something".  On the other hand, you talk as if a
> person had a handful of "trust" which he can
> place hither and thither as the mood strikes him.
>
> Now _that's_ illogical.

John 12:11, illogical? John 2:11, John 11:45, Romans 3:26, Galatians
2:16, Galatians 3:22, Ephesians 1:15, Ephesians 3:12, and more... all
wrong? I merely quoted "put one's faith in Christ," which I thought was
just quoting the Bible, and you jumped all over me for being
"illogical", can you explain?

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