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from: `zach` victorthecleaner{at}
date: 2005-01-21 18:31:00
subject: Re: Free Will

Matthew Johnson wrote:
> In article , zach says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Matthew Johnson wrote:
> >> In article ,
David Glenn
> >Misner
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Do we REALLY have free will or is it an illusion?
> >>
> >> Yes, we do.
> >>
> >> >  My dad says we
> >> >really do not have free will
> >>
> >> Is he a Calvinist?
> >>
> >> > but I say that we do but I can't find any
> >> >place in the Bible that says we do
> >>
> >> Not in so many words, no. But it _is_ implied. So, for example, as
> >St. Augustine
> >> so brilliantly explains in De Gratia et Libero Arbitrio, whenever
> >Scripture
> >> records God giving Man a commandment, Scripture is implying that
we
> >have free
> >> will.
> >
> >In the end, did Jonah really have a choice to go to Nineveh?
>
> Of course he did. He could have refused to repent while in the belly
of the
> whale, and died there. Or he could have changed his mind after he was
spat up on
> the beach, and decided to resume his flight.
>
> Of course, if either of these things had happened the Book of Jonah
would not
> have been written. Jonah would have simply died as another impenitent
sinner.

All right then... did Saul/Paul have a choice in whether or not to
become an Apostle of Christ, or was it God that chose him and that was
that?

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