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to: ALAN FLETCHER
from: JANE KELLEY
date: 1997-06-20 16:53:00
subject: Adhd

AF> I can feel for you but there is no cure for osteo (what is gone is
AF> gone) only relief or an artificial joint. If you can get harmless
AF> relief (whereby I would claim that anything which kills pain is
AF> not harmless or without side-effects) then go ahead. I personally
AF> know of no cure for osteoarthritis. Even if bone begins to grow
AF> again it would seem that the bone (body) does not seem to remember
AF> the original form and this thus usually ends up in a deformation.
AF> In this respect I would certainly like to be proven wrong.
We shall soon see what the Glucosamine does.  I will not have surgery.
AF> > AF> Because you yourself are a sufferer it is understandable that you
AF> > AF> place a greater accent on relief rather than on a cure..and even
AF> > AF> more understandable when an ailment such as osteoarthritis is not
AF> > AF> curable. Nevertheless, this is not the way to go for the future,
AF> > AF> more effort (i.e. research funds) need to be pumped into prevention
AF> > AF> and hence cure (prevention is the only cure) and thus into the
AF> > AF> causes of diseases and ailments.
Anything is curable if we understand it.
That is the first step.
AF> > If the Glucosamine lives up to its hype, it will start to heal some of
AF> > the damage.
AF> I'm pessimistic on this score..but if you are optimistic then that
AF> is always a good prerequisite for anything. :-)
AF> > AF> This is your opinion....but if you continue to take pain-relief 
drugs
AF> > AF> and antibiotics for the inflammations you have already destroyed 
your
AF> > AF> immune system anyway.
AF> > Er, ah, you apparently haven't seen any of my posts where I have
AF> > outlined the problems with antibiotics that came from Group Health
AF> > prescribing one after another for me.  I am now allergic to a couple of
AF> > them and will take them only as a last result.  That is why I haunt 
his
AF> > kind of conference and why I am trying other things instead.
AF> I would claim Jane that when you are talking to me (or the people
AF> I represent) you are talking to REAL alternative meds who are also
AF> present and strong in your own country. I can not offer you any
AF> alternative but an artificial joint (and at your age you have
AF> nothing to loose). I appreciate of course your preference for
AF> some other solution. I would thus say that if anyone can offer
AF> you a better one then hold on as long as you can and try it out.
AF> I for one would be the first to listen if it works.
AF> > The eventual goal is to get my activity level up again.
AF> >  My mother-in-law got an artificial hip joint AF> about 5 years ago. 
he
AF> >  is now 80, doesn't take any medication for it, AF> does not have any
AF> >  pain (any more) and is enjoying life to the full. AF> I'm not an
AF> >  advocate of artificial anything if the condition that AF> caused it 
an
AF> >  be prevented in the first place. But once the horse AF> has bolted....
AF> > She is 80.  I am 69 and I don't want trouble with the cement or the
AF> > drugs.  And I know I will have.
AF> Can only report that she has no problems at all to date..and she
AF> says she would do it again.
AF> > JK> > You will just have to understand that we stopped listening to
AF> > other JK> > nations a couple of centuries or so ago, and that we insist
AF> > upon doing JK> > things our way here now.
AF> > AF> Not true Jane. Please stop using the term "we" to mean the U.S.A.
AF> > AF> rather than you and perhaps a few others. There are plenty of
AF> > AF> good "alternative" researchers and medics in your own country who
AF> > AF> no longer suffer from food allergies BTW.
AF> > And there are thousands who suffer and don't know it.
AF> Would agree there. :-)
AF> > AF> > That includes listing food allergies or allergies as a disease
AF> > problem.
AF> > They are.
AF> OK...let's agree to differ and bury the issue. Food allergies..or
AF> any allergies...are symptoms to us. People are just not born to
AF> be allergic to pollen and untreated vegetables and the excrements
AF> of some carpet mite.
AF> Alan
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