On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Ian Underwood wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:17:11 -0500, Lazy Engineer
>  wrote:
> 
> >To be honest, that chart shows that the ban appears to have been passed
> >during a normal low blip in the stats.  I see no clear trend suggesting
> >the gun ban has had any dramatic effect.  My suspicion is that it will,
> >but the data are far too erratic to make any kind of conclusion.  The most
> >recent data is starting to show the beginnings of a real trend, but not
> >enough to really make any kind of definitive claim.  I'm afraid I have to
> >agree w/ the banners, we need more time (probably 3 more years).
> >    The data's good to have, just be prepared to have it laughed in your
> >face if anyone does any kind of statistical test on it (Chi test, F test,
> >whatever).  The increase in crime easily falls within the normal
> >fluctuation/noise of the baseline data.
> >
> >-Lazy
> 
> Even so, the presumption on the part of the government was that if
> there were fewer guns, there should be less crime.  They got the guns.
> Why should it take 3 years for the effects to be seen?  If they took
> the guns away and nothing happened, they should give them all back. 

Sorry, I guess you missed the pictures in the press, all of those guns
have been meted down to make dildoes for the assholes in the Australian
government.

I don't think the rightful owners of that metal would want it back now.

MT