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to: TOM WALKER
from: HANS MANGOLD
date: 1998-02-24 06:44:00
subject: still @ Win3.1

Hello Tom!
23 Feb 98 12:01, Tom Walker wrote to Hans Mangold:
 HM>> Tom, that's not a good idea.  Neither File Manager nor Program
 HM>> Manager can deal with Win95's long filenames.  The W95 DeskTop and
 HM>> Explorer take a litt getting used to, but once you've mastered
 HM>> them, you'll =never= want to go b to the pre-historic File /
 HM>> Program Manager.
 TW>  I have no use for long Filenames.  I concider it a chalendge to
 TW> fighre out clever 8 character names I can rembember. It is a Mental
 TW> exercise for this 66 year old retiree.  :-)
Well Tom, I hear you.... I've been in this PC business since Day One; old 
habits are hard to break.  Also, I run my DOS-based BBS under Win95, and I 
still use old classics like Vernon Buerg's LIST...... so 8.3 names are no 
stranger to me.  (BTW, there's a new LIST with LFN support out now.)  
However, there's a lot more to this story than just =your= filenames; what 
about the long filenames used by Win95 itself and by many/most programs?
 HM>> It appears you dislike Win95 without even being familiar with it.
 HM>> Win95 is not the greatest or best, but it is infinitely better
 HM>> than Win 3.1.
 TW> **********************
 TW> NOT true at all. I am fimilar with it. I dislike Win95 because of
 TW> hands on use BOTH (occasional win 3.1 use at home and use of win95 in
 TW> my volunteer work) and just happen to like the Look and Feel of WIN
 TW> 3.11 I do thoink that Bill Gates and Microsoft are Preditators and we
 TW> will regret it when we allow them to Destroy al lthe competition. A
 TW> job by the way almost complete so just wait fro hte other shoe to
 TW> drop.
Sorry, I disagree =strongly=.  Originally, IBM tried to =control= the PC 
industry in the worst possible way; and have made attempts over the years to 
regain control.  Fortunately, IBM is so incredibly incompetent, that these 
feeble attempts failed.  Had IBM won, you'd probably be still using a 
286-class PC retailing for $5,000 not counting on a mandatory $1,000 annual 
service contract.
If you want to know the future of the PC industry, study the past and study 
all of the players.  You'll realize that if it wasn't for Bill Gates, the 
evolution would have taken a dramatically different twist and the average 
person would not be able to enjoy the price / performance we are now taking 
for granted.
But..... Tom, I'm going to end this right here and now, for two reasons:
a) I don't think =anything= in this world will change your mind
b) This is not the place for in-depth debates, another echo such
   as OS-DEBATE or, preferably OSDEBATE, would be more appropriate.
Cheers, Hans
--- GoldED/386 2.50+ / Binkley32 / Maximus / Squish / WINDOWS 95 / V34+
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