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echo: fidonews
to: DAN CLOUGH
from: DALE SHIPP
date: 2019-06-15 02:47:00
subject: Re: Abortion

 -=> On 06-14-19  08:57,  Dan Clough <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Abortion <=-

 DC> The point is right below here, which was that the law (as written) 
 DC> will likely never come to be.  It was also to counter your 
 DC> implication that the law was in practice right this minute.

The law has been passed and signed by the Governer.
 
 DC> The odds are VERY high that that will not even
 DC> happen, due to legal proceedings and "red tape".  *IF* it ever
 DC> does go into effect, there will have been modifications made to
 DC> allow for abortions in cases of rape/incest.
 
 DS> Wishful thinking, and/or you admit the absurdity of the law.

 DC> Neither, actually.  Admittedly it's an "educated guess", but I'm 
 DC> pretty sure I'm correct.  As for the "absurdity" - I completely 
 DC> agree that there needs to be allowances made for cases of 
 DC> rape/incest.  No question about that.  My belief is that the law 
 DC> was written the way it was knowing how much "outrage" it would 
 DC> cause, and then.... they'll add the exceptions for rape/incest and 
 DC> be able to claim that they've made concessions and the law should 
 DC> be enacted with those changes.  In reality that is what was 
 DC> desired/planned the whole time.

That statement is spin.  If they had meant for the exceptions to be part
of the law that they passed, they would have included them.  Their
intent was to totally ban abortions with no exceptions (in direct
contridiction to federal law by the way).

 DC> The actual *REAL*
 DC> intent of this law is to get the question back in front of the US
 DC> Supreme Court for an attempt at overturning Roe v Wade.
 
Maybe so.

 DS> And thus go back to the era of coat hanger abortions and women
 DS> dying. I certainly hope that does not happen.

 DC> I hope it does happen.

You hope that many woman will start dying because of this -- sorry that
you feed that cruel.

 DC> We've had legalized murder for far too
 DC> long.  If you're so against "women dying", why does it not bother 
 DC> you that MILLIONS of babies have died?

Because they are not yet babies when the abortion happens.
 
 
 DS> ... Shipwrecked on Hesperus in Columbia, Maryland.

 DC> This may be part of your problems... you're living in a Communist 
 DC> section of the country!

Ah -- one of the rules of debate is that when you run out of things to
say, fall back on insulting your opponent.

And by no means do I live in a communist section of the country -- there
is no such thing in America.

                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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