On 10-14-97 TOM WALKER wrote to DON DELLMANN... 
 
 TW> DD> ... FAIRBANKS MORSE EATS ALCOS FOR BREAKFAST. 
 TW>  
 TW>  They did the same thing in the Submarine Service. Except it was GM's 
 TW> that  
 TW> they had for breakfast. 
Actually, there were some submariners who wished for Winton's for their  
subs. These were subs that were equipped with Hoover-Owens_Rentschler 
(H.O.R.) 
engines. You can probably guess what they were nicknamed. ;-) 
Not much negative was ever written about F-M's or the Winton's. I suppose if 
you'd had the HOR's and then got Winton's, you couldn't complain too much.  
The HOR's were based on a design by M.A.N., a German company, and had the 
blessing 
of the Navy, probably why they were such garbage. F-M and Winton both 
alized
that putting diesels into fleet boats was a good place to act as a test bed 
for 
engines for railroad use. Alco did the same thing, but concentrated more on 
surface ships.  
                                  K 
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