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from: David E. Powell
date: 2010-04-04 21:08:12
subject: Re: R.I.P. Robert Culp 1930-2010

On Mar 30, 9:12 pm, Duggy  wrote:
> On Mar 30, 4:42 pm, "John W. Kennedy" 
> wrote:
>
> > More to the point, Cameron had said in public that the two "Outer
> > Limits" episodes were behind "The Terminator".
That was what, quite
> > naturally, set H.E. off. If Cameron thinks that this makes H.E. a
> > "parasite" -- well, people have queer (and usually self-serving)
> > notions about such things.
>
> Define "in public", my understanding is that he said it to a member of
> the crew...
>
> Also, I'm not sure that JC's statement set HE off, as the production
> company was fighting the suit until it came out about JC's statement
> and then they settled.
>
> > It would be ridiculous, though, not to admit that Cameron makes
> > damfine flicks all the same, and "Avatar" is one of
them. Just don't
> > look for profundity or originality of concept; his talents lie
> > elsewhere.
>
> Avatar certainly isn't original.  It's very pretty and has fantastic
> FX... I wouldn't go as far as damnfine, though.
>
> Titanic was boring, and I'm the romance story is pretty standard.
>
> I think there was originality in Aliens (although obviously it owes
> much to the film it sequels) but I may be missing something.
I believe Cameron himself said that along with the original Alien, the
movie "Them" was a big influence for him on Aliens. Then again most
artists reference things, like JMS referencing Forbidden Planet with
the Great Machine on B5. The question of how they do it and what
credit goes where can be a tricky one to say the least. I am guessing
that JMS' grace notes to certain of Harlan's ideas was done better
than Cameron's was in the eyes of Mr. Ellison. Especially as they seem
to have a very good relationship with each other.
> ===
> = DUG.
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