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from: Mike N.
date: 2007-04-28 22:41:22
subject: Re: 0wning Vista from the boot

From: Mike N. 

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:32:04 -0400, "Geo."  wrote:

>>   Unless I missed something, hardware trusted mode is the only current
>> defense.
>
>If you can get booted before the OS there is no reason you can't simulate
>trusted mode hardware to the OS.

   That's true, but (assuming bitlocker encrypted system volume here) you'd
have to crack the encryption in both directions to be able to make this work.

  Without bitlocker, all bets are off - I don't think it's much more secure
than XP against patching when booting an alternate OS / boot time control
program, except for PatchGuard, which might protect parts of the core from
outside influences.

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