From: "Glenn Meadows" 

I'm cleaning up a laptop from the son of an employee, and it had at least 8
trojans on it. Asking him for his factory restore disk, after copying off
the kids music files.  Nuke time.

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Glenn M.
"Robert Comer"  wrote in
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> >but it is impossible, immho, to protect users
>>from themselves especially with zero-day exploits.
>
> Yep, with the internet and Windows the way they are, it is impossible.
> All we can do is be able to fix problems as they come up.
>
> I practice on home user machines -- you'd be surprised just how bad a
> PC can get and still almost function.  (of course, there's no backup,
> so it can be tricky to retain any of the users data!)
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>
> On Wed, 02 May 2007 08:29:18 -0400, Richard B. 
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 1 May 2007 19:27:12 -0400, "Geo."
 wrote:
>>
>>>I mean servers and desktops, and since 1995 they have had limited
>>>internet
>>>access (only business related stuff) and email (without the ability to
>>>receive attachments directly) and in all that time we have had zero
>>>spyware
>>>and zero virus infections on the internal network.
>>
>>I've had two machines get hit from going to exploited business sites
>>in the past.  Once machine was not updating virus defs and the other
>>machine the user decided to ignore company policy and let his daughter
>>play with his laptop when away from the office.  I've continued to
>>tighten restrictions but it is impossible, immho, to protect users
>>from themselves especially with zero-day exploits.
>>
>>- Richard

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