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From: "Rich Gauszka"
VMware gives away virtualization products also ( Player and Server ). Where
they have a gripe is in restrictions Microsoft, with Vista, is placing on
the operating systems that are allowed to be virtualized. VMware will also
be hurt in their Data Center virtualization products if Microsoft makes
headway with Viridian - but that's just the whine of competition there.
VMware will have it tough in the Mac environment also as they started late
and Parallels has more features
"Robert Comer" wrote in
message news:rul93316errq16bma6uq2l08i13mdh2em9{at}4ax.com...
> >http://www.crn.com/software/197008888
>
> I read that before, it's just hot air, Microsoft's licensing doesn't
> favor their virtualization over others as it's applied equally.
>
> To me, VMWare only valid complaint is Microsoft is giving the tech
> away and VMWare's charging for it (sometimes). We've seen that
> before...
>
> Anyway, VMWare still has enough differentiation in capability that
> they wont be going away anytime soon, and the free pricing of
> Microsoft products was pretty much caused by VMWare, so I don't have
> much sympathy. (They gave away VMWare player and VMWare Server away
> free before Microsoft started the same.)
>
> As an aside, VMWare is also feeling pressure from others than
> Microsoft, Parallels on the Wintel side, and Xen on the Linux side...
> (and others)
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:01:46 -0400, "Rich Gauszka"
> wrote:
>
>>I doubt you'll see any direct statement from Microsoft. MS does plan to
>>include their Viridian hypervisor in future offerings though and VMware
>>has
>>been crying foul for months. Although VMware does seem a bit more upset
>>with
>>Microsoft's licensing restrictions
>>
>>http://www.crn.com/software/197008888
>>
>>"Their tactics are focused on software licensing and distribution terms
>>for
>>SQL Server, Exchange, Windows Server, Vista and through the APIs and
>>formats
>>for virtualized Windows," according to the white paper, which highlights
>>seven ways Microsoft is allegedly forcing customers to its own solution.
>>
>>
>>"Robert Comer"
wrote in message
>>news:v9f933tmp433fcidvmj60s3icd6ppp66o3{at}4ax.com...
>>>I have yet to see a Microsoft spokesman say that so I can't tell...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:42:32 -0400, mike wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 08:08:57 -0400, Robert Comer
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>I've read Microsoft spokespeople firmly stating
that Microsoft wants
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>control the interface to the hardware, and not run
on top of a
>>>>>>hypervisor.
>>>>>
>>>>>?? They're making their own hypervisor *and* supporting other
>>>>>hypervisors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You mean a Microsoft spokesperson lied?
>>>>
>>>>The horror!
>>>>
>>>> /m
>>
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