On Jan 10, 1997, at 22:44, Paul Edwards of 3:711/934.9 wrote:

  Hi Paul,

PE> :-)  I was wondering about those problems, but don't run Desqview 
PE> myself, so had nothing to contribute.  Very strange this "use up all 
PE> available memory" thing too, I wasn't aware of any code that did 
PE> that.

  It's my remark, let me explain.  I'm running this version of Msged in DV
Window 4.  Window 1 and 2 have the bbs running in them, window 3 is running
a looping batch file that checks to be sure everything is as it should be
(most of the time the batch file is "sleeping" waiting for
something to trigger it).  The machine is a 486/66 with 16 megs of ram.
With this version of Msged running I'm able to open a total of 11 DV
windows.  Here's what mem run in window 5 looks like;

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C:\DV>mem

Memory Type        Total  =   Used  +   Free
----------------  -------   -------   -------
Conventional         639K      105K      534K
Upper                  0K        0K        0K
Reserved               0K        0K        0K
Extended (XMS)    15,360K   14,368K      992K
----------------  -------   -------   -------
Total memory      15,999K   14,473K    1,526K

Total under 1 MB     639K      105K      534K

Total Expanded (EMS)                  992K (1,015,808 bytes)
Free Expanded (EMS)                   992K (1,015,808 bytes)

Largest executable program size       534K (546,528 bytes)
Largest free upper memory block         0K       (0 bytes)
The high memory area is not available.
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  Configuring and starting Msged 4.00 is a whole lot different.  As Msged
4.00 runs in Window 4 I am unable to open _any_ additional windows until
Msged 4.00 is swapped to disk. :-(  Here's what a mem command produces in
Window 5 (window 4 is swapped to disk);

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C:\DV>mem

Memory Type        Total  =   Used  +   Free
----------------  -------   -------   -------
Conventional         607K      105K      502K
Upper                  0K        0K        0K
Reserved               0K        0K        0K
Extended (XMS)    15,360K   15,360K        0K
----------------  -------   -------   -------
Total memory      15,967K   15,465K      502K

Total under 1 MB     607K      105K      502K

Total Expanded (EMS)                  992K (1,015,808 bytes)
Free Expanded (EMS)                     0K       (0 bytes)

Largest executable program size       502K (513,760 bytes)
Largest free upper memory block         0K       (0 bytes)
The high memory area is not available.
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  The windows are configured in DV to use 1 meg of EMS memory.  Msged 4.00
swapping to disk to open window 5 tells me there is NO memory left at all. 
If there were, Msged 4.00 would use it to swap and additional windows could
be opened.  The only other program I've ever see do this was a file manager
called Wizard.  In Wizard you can limit the amount of memory used with an
enviorment variable.  Here's a bit from Wizard's docs;

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File Wizard is designed to use DMPI (DOS-Protected-Mode-Interface). Due
to that fact, Wizard is able to use the whole RAM and the all above
memory, which is available as XMS. To run this mode you need a PC with
a 286/386 processor and 1,2 MB free XMS memory. A special version for
a XT or a pc with only 1 MB RAM isn't available.


Following environment settings change the memory management
for the built in DPMI server. Wrong settings may lead to
an irregular behaviour of File Wizard !

The settings are passed via the DOS environment varibale RTM.

SET RTM=[option value] [option value] ...

possible options:

EXTLEAVE nnnn   Let nnnn Kbyte extended memory left
EXTMAX   nnnn   Only use a maximum of nnnn kByte of extended memory
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  If you need more info, holler, I'll be glad to help.  The version I'm
using has a few little quirks that I'd like to eliminate but it's still
better than the 2.2e version I was running.
 

Gary

gcrain{at}infomail.com
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