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echo: indian_affairs
to: SONDRA BALL
from: JIM CASTO
date: 1997-03-08 04:55:00
subject: Re: what are we? part 1

 -=> Quoting Sondra Ball to Jim Casto <=-
 JC> Are you in jail? Have you ever been in jail?
 SB> That's an interesting question to ask a person.
 Well, Charles keeps insisting that he is a "criminal". To my way of thinking
 that implies that he has been convicted of some kind of crime and has been
 incarcerated. One could also wind up in jail after being _charged_ with a
 crime, but not ever convicted. In which case, that non-convicted person is
 technically not a criminal. Neither Charles nor I clarified it as to why we
 were in jail. (And as you say, it could even have been a visit. My wife has
 been "in jail" more than once having toured corrections facilities.)
 
 IMHO, Charles is "stretching" the point when he equates being a "criminal"
 to not wearing a seatbelt. I have never heard of anyone around here going
 to jail for that. (If they get stopped by a law enforcement officer and
 hassle the officer they are probably going to wind up in jail charged with
 "hassling" NOT "not wearing". If they get a citation for "not wearing" and
 refuse to pay the fine, they are probably charged with "contempt of court"
 or some such thing, not "not wearing a seatbelt".
 SB> prisons talking to prisoners and guards.  Even knowing I was getting
 SB> out in a few hours, there was always something sobering about the
 SB> clanging of those doors behind me.
 
 That's the feeling jail _should_ impart on everyone, but obviously doesn't.
 
 Jim
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