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Mulling over LEE LOFASO to STEVE ASHER 27 Apr 2003 Hi Lee! >LL>Most Catholics do not follow the same logic, since >LL>"dispensationalism" is a Protestant concept. SA>Quite so, and while the Catholics I come in contact with have little SA>knowledge of prophecy or interest in it (much like everyone else I SA>know), there is a powerful current within Catholicism which drives SA>it to convert the world and bring about an "Age of Mary". It sees SA>Mary as conquering, though not militarily[?], and has parallels with SA>things like the Project For The New American Century. LL> While "cult" can have a positive connotation, such as the "cult of LL> Fatima" or the "cult of Lourdes", it can also have a very negative LL> connotation, as in the case where some Catholics misuse religion as LL> a means of converting others to their particular point of view. I cannot say I've come across much of that in this city; not much of note that Catholics could misuse [or use] to convert others to a particular view. They are fairly low key... [see below]. SA>E.g. the [apparition of] Mary is reported to have said at Fatima: SA>"In the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph; the Holy Father will SA>consecrate Russia to me, it will be converted and a certain period SA>of peace will be granted to the world." SA>["The Woman Shall Conquer", by Don Sharkey - has Imprimatur and SA>Nihil Obstat 1952] LL> The cult of Fatima is not forced on those who do not believe. And LL> no other cult is. However, some Catholics try to impose their LL> views on others, including on other Catholics. Recently, the third LL> part of the secret of Fatima has been released by the Vatican. The person who gave me that book is a Catholic priest, who has come under notice of the local C. heirarchy for being a bit heretical in some of his beliefs & practices. He has no knowledge of prophecy as far as I can see, and no interest, but I snapped up the book when he offered it to me. LL> Pope John Paul II had his righthand man, Ratzinger, write an LL> interpretation of that portion of the secret. At the end of that LL> interpretation, Ratzinger said very specifically that it was not an LL> official interpretation, only an individual interpretation. LL> Others, Catholic and non-Catholic alike, could interpret things any LL> way they want. Also, no Catholic is forced to believe the LL> apparitions of Mary as being real events. Some believe, others do LL> not. While they may not be forced to believe the apparitions of Mary, it seems that they are forced to believe dogma such as the assumption of Mary; to voluntarily believe otherwise is to indicate that [the person] "has fallen away completely from the divine and Catholic faith", according to Pope Pius XII when proclaiming that dogma of Mary's assumption in 1950. SA>The current Pope certainly was instrumental, with Reagan & Gorbachev, SA>in bringing about the end of the Soviet Union. LL> Religion had much more to do with it than politics. The Cold War LL> had gone on for decades, with no thaw occurring until JP II came LL> along. Coincidence? Or a deliberate plan by the Vatican? SA>It goes on "Saints and mystics tell us that a glorious age is coming SA>in which the Blessed Virgin will be recognized by men as their Queen. SA>This will be the Age of Mary." LL> That would be an opinion stated by the author, not being any part LL> of the text of the secret of Fatima. Quite so, and by itself would be of little importance. LL> What is meant by the "Age of Mary" is open to question. Some would equate it with the "New Age", when humans acknowledge the "earth mother" or goddess, Gaia. LL> Some Catholics want the pope to name Mary as Co-Mediatrix (kind LL> of like co-ruler with Jesus). Most Catholics take an entirely LL> different view, regarding Mary as important but not equal with God. Very wise, for there is one mediator between God and man - Jesus Christ. >>> Continued to next message Cheers, Steve.. ---* Origin: < Adelaide, South Oz. (08) 8351-7637 (3:800/432) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 @PATH: 800/7 1 640/954 774/605 123/500 106/2000 633/267 |
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