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echo: coffee_klatsch
to: Roger Nelson
from: Roy Witt
date: 2009-04-26 11:31:00
subject: New LA law

26 Apr 09 09:29, Roger Nelson wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>> In California and here in Texas, there's a solid white line painted
 RW>> on the roadway. It's probably a foot to 18" wide and extends across
 RW>> all lanes of the right hand side of the road. This is before the
 RW>> cross-walk lines, if they exist.

 RN> Not like that here.

In which case the stop sign is the limit line.

 RN> The city hasn't even replaced the street signs that were blown away
 RN> last September.  In any case, we don't have those lines here.
 RN> Sometimes when the local LEOs need money, they'll check for proof of
 RN> insurance, speeding and motorists using the California stop at stop
 RN> signs -- something this city has an overabundance of.

I see drivers that don't stop at the limit line, but about 3 feet into the
intersection. That and they're flying down the street and don't slow down
until they're right on top of the stop sign.

 RN> The ones that get me are the 3-Way stop signs in the suburbs where
 RN> there is only light traffic.

What gets me is that cars exiting the freeway have the right of way over
traffic that is already on the road that the exit dumps them on. The
entrance to the freeway is just 100 yards further down the road and
traffic that wants to get on the freeway, can't because some jackass
coming off the freeway thinks the road belongs to him. I complained and
complained to the local PD about them speeding (70 in a 45) and they
finally setup a laser speed trap, but only after a couple of high speed
crashes off the exit. My pet peeve...

 RW>> Apparently this intersection had 'California Stops' violations going
 RW>> on for some time. He was there (I saw him) in plain site and I
 RW>> didn't think I was in error in my stop. Needless to say, he heard
 RW>> plenty about it from me on the spot. In fact, he was still writing
 RW>> his notes when I left.

 RN> That's probably what got you into trouble.

Just like here, that street was one of only a few streets that gave access
to the neighborhood where thousands of people lived. High traffic area at
the AM and PM rush hour.

 RN> The last time I was stopped, no, make it the time before that, I was
 RN> tempted to say something, but it is often wiser to keep your mouth
 RN> shut because they aren't going to stop writing.

I can't do that...When I feel the cop is wrong, I have to tell the cop
he's a looney bin character needing a straight jacket. Heh...I've had
plenty of judges read the record for a long time before proceeding with my
case. And I'm not afraid to tell them a thing or two if I think it's
needed.

 RN> I haven't been pulled over in this parish yet.  The last time was in
 RN> St. Tammany parish during an insurance check and the time before that
 RN> was in Jefferson parish when I was pulled over and ticketed for going
 RN> through a caution light while pulling my boat, which sat on a 21'
 RN> trailer. It was 4am.  No way I could stop without blocking the
 RN> non-existent traffic at that time of the morning.  It was an
 RN> intersection with a median, so I kept going. Towing that boat across
 RN> the Huey P. Long bridge going to Cocodrie (south of Houma) was an
 RN> adventure.

In Sterling, IL, a cop stopped behind my car(s) while we were stopped at
the curb. He had seen us at an earlier intersection and wanted to tell us
that he thought the car that was following me was following me too close.

On further inspection, he found out that the car following me actually had
a tow-bar attached.

This was also during the early morning hours with no other traffic on the
streets.

After going through a traffic light controlled intersection, we had pulled
over to the curb to let junior out of the campershell covered back of the
El Camino and into the cab, where it was a bit warmer.

                R\%/itt




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