On 7 Aug 97 08:26am, Scott Parks wrote to Richard Peer:
 SP> Richard Peer wrote in a message to George Fliger:
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 SP> Are you sure the directories themselves contain the rights or
 SP> are the rights in the bindery?   Wondering if this may be why
 SP> I've had to use a trustee restore program.
Yes, in the directories and with individual files themselves.  If you've
ever watched a backup program that shows Netware information being
collected you'd see that the information is collected from each file
and directory during a prescan before the files and directories are
actually backed up.  This information, along with the actual Bindery
information, is typically stored in a file at the beginning of the tape
called NOVRIGHT.INF (typical format for Colorado Backup).
When a restore is done, all the files and directories are created and
placed on the volume to include the special NOVRIGHT.INF file.  Once all
the information is restored, the restore program goes back and pulls the
Novell rights and trustee assignment information out of this file and
applies it to the restored volume.  If user information does not match
what was stored with the files and directories, that information for
that user or users is lost as the restore operation will not put it
back.
It is not uncommon to discover that your users and their login
scripts were recreated during a restore, Groups were recreated
(EVERYONE) but no trustee assignments show for either the users or the
groups.  It is also common to have printers, print queues and print
servers recreated but the links between them are broken so printing does
not take place even though print jobs get processed without error.
The scenario I've seen above typically happens with a backup program
(again, Colorado Backup is a prime example) that prompts the user on
whether they want the Novell Special Rights and Assignments backed up
and they answer "no" and continue.  In that case, there is no
information to restore.  Other instances include when the individual
performing the backup is NOT logged in as the Supervisor or Supervisor
equivalent and never see the question (no Supervisor, no question) and
only get a backup of what they're authorized to access.
George
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