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from: Elko T
date: 2010-07-30 18:43:20
subject: Re: OT inception

Amy Guskin wrote:
>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:54:30 -0400, Elko T wrote
>
>>    What is the purpose of looking at your hands - how exactly does it
>> help? <<
>
> Well, it's just a practice technique, as I say above.  It's supposed to help
> you develop an awareness of dreamlike instances.
>
>>  Unless, of course, another experience qualifies: Sometimes, when I'm
>> unable to sleep, the scenarios that I play out before my mind's eye take
>> a life of their own. I no longer direct them - they unfold like in a
>> dream, but I don't experience myself sleeping. I can feel myself (at the
>> periphery) lying in bed, and should something in the room change (a
>> sound, a light coming on or off), I'm aware of it and might react. In
>> addition, the time spent that way is not restful. At the end of such a
>> sequence, I don't feel rested, but rather feel as having lied awake in
>> my bed, and just the fantasies were more independent than usual.
>>    For a real lucid dream one has to be asleep, right? <<
>
> More to the point, one has to actually be dreaming for it to be a lucid
> dream.  So what you're describing ? a state where you're not fully asleep ?
> doesn't seem to qualify as a dream, at least IMHO.
   I read up a lttle bit about that. It seems what I experience can be
classified with 'daydreaming'. Interestingly, they don't insist that the
daydream must be entirely directed - apparently, it can take a life on
its own, like mine do. So I have nighttime daydreams. :)
   No hope for me ever having a lucid dream, then. I've tried
half-heartedly some techniques, but they either don't apply (I've never
ever suspected being in a dream while dreaming, so can't use
reality-testing), or don't work out. My "nighttime daydreams" resemble
closely the wake-initiated technique, but I never actually cross over.
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