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echo: indian_affairs
to: SONDRA BALL
from: JIM CASTO
date: 1997-03-08 03:02:00
subject: Re: what are we? part 1

 -=> Quoting Sondra Ball to Jim Casto <=-
 SB> *do* have different people going to them.  Knowing how effectively
 SB> camps were put together for the Japanese-Americans in World War II,
 Actually, that took some time and people were kept in temporary camps
 for several months. And, yes, wartime has shown how swiftly the American
 government and its people can mobilize.
 SB> Whoever is doing the talking has his or her group being incarcerated
 SB> by the other side.
 
 That is generally the case.
 
 SB> I haven't heard anyone discuss gas ovens yet.  I have heard them
 SB> discuss forced work programs in connection with the camps. I have heard
 SB> people discuss minorities in connection with the camps.
 
 Again, if prisoners in the "normal" corrections system are made to work to
 help pay for the cost of their incaceration, I suppose some could call that
 "forced labor". Oregon is trying now to implement such a program that was
 approved by the voting public in a general election. As for minorities, I
 believe anyone in prison (in Oregon) now has either been duly convicted in a
 court of law or is awaiting trial. The fact that "one" side is "blaming" the
 "other" side, leads me to believe that the rumors are totally false.
 
 SB> I don't know.  I would have to ask the far right and the far left
 SB> people out there, first.  (g)
 
 There are probably radical fringes that think day care or public school is
 a concentration camp. There are also people that think the world is gonna
 end in the year (pick one) and occasionally there are people that see 
little
 green men". Doesn't make them real.
 SB> I still think public flogging served a worthwhile cause.
 
 Absolutely. Along with public hanging. If anyone doesn't believe that 
apital
 and corporal punishment is effective and works, they should check into the
 "Mafia" and virtually any "street gang" in Los Angeles.
 
 SB> group of lifers at Graterford State Prison.  I assure you that I met
 SB> people at Graterford that I hope *never* get out of prison.
 
 There are people that should not still be ALIVE in the prison system. (IMHO)
 SB> mistaken.  I spent *no* time researching the prisons out there in
 SB> Indiana.  I *doubt* they exist; but I don't *know* they don't exist.
 
 I don't know that "little green men" do or do not exist, either. That kinda
 sorta falls under the "negative evidence" idea.
 
 SB> Sounds wonderful!  Mario and I hope to travel when we eventually
 SB> retire, although that's a ways down the road yet.
 
 Start planning your retirement now. The wife and I started about eight years
 ago and I sure wished we'd started sooner.  As it is, I'll be retiring at
 60 instead of 65 or 72, so I guess we didn't do _too_ bad. 
 Jim
 SB> A single fact can spoil a good argument.
 
 'Tis true. 
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