JT> The papers are supposed to provide an
JT> unbiased view of the news in question

RS> Crap, most of them, particularly Ruperts rags, are supposed
RS> to make money. Part of the way they do that is by providing
RS> a very superficial commentary that the stupids will buy coz
RS> it doesnt strain their tiny little 'brains'

JT> That explains why I ignore it anyway.
JT> And the TV news.  Actually, all the news.

RS> That explains how you end up so ignorant of the real
RS> world. Like how the law does change at times for example.

RS> Nothing to stop you choosing to use the better done news.

JT> Oh, I'm sorry if I didn't give you my correct impression of any media.

Fraid you made your 'impression', its actually an opinion, abundantly clear.

JT> Just in case you misunderstood me, I'll elaborate
JT> the opinion. They are ALL fucked in the head.

Fraid not. And it just aint possible for someone like you to
keep up with whats going on without some source of news John. Like
I said, your approach is actually worse, you end up pig ignorant.

You dont actually do what you claim anyway, otherwise you wouldnt
be aware that the gun laws have been changed for example.

JT> Take the gun fiasco for instance, guns don't affect the majority.

RS> Utterly irrelevant to whether the law got
RS> changed because enough wanted it changed John.

RS> Lots of laws "don't affect the majority" and are laws ANYWAY.

RS> Very few are directly affected by bank
RS> robberys for example, they are banned anyway.

JT> They go through their day to day lives and never get
JT> to see any gun let alone be involved in a situation
JT> where they are standing at the bussiness end of one.

RS> Just as true of bank robberys.

JT> Yet they have the most opinions and yell the loudest.

RS> Thats what democracys are about John, their opinions are what matters.

RS> Thats certainly got its downsides, but it sure beats having
RS> some hereditary fool deciding that stuff, or a dictator who
RS> chooses to use goons with guns to keep himself at the controls
RS> decide that stuff any day. Or furiously paging thru a book of fairy
RS> tales written by illiterate goat herds more than 2K years ago to see
RS> if you can find what some god is supposed ot have said on the matter.

JT> My problem with the above situation, is that those persons
JT> may be impressionable, especially by the shifty pollies,

Thats not why the gun laws got changed John. And no matter
how much you hyperventilate about the deficiencys of a decent
democracy, it leaves EVERY other alternative for dead. The
current utter fiasco you are seeing in much of eastern europe,
street demos, are FAR more prone to mindless hysteria etc for
example. And being whipped up by demagogues for their own purposes.

JT> and thus while the people may think they are doing
JT> what everyone else is doing, (heaven forbid if they
JT> have their own unique option of a situation)

Just not possible for everyone to have their own unique option
(you presumably mean opinion) on something like gun laws John.

JT> and so if it falls over and then they won't feel too bad since
JT> they weren't the only ones that had a part in the decision.

Thats not what the current gun law changes are about.

JT> Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the pollies get their vote

Often they dont, you may have noticed we have been pulling the
plug on labor very unceremoniously indeed in the last few years.

JT> and their term in office to earn big bucks
JT> and cheap trips all over the place etc...

Its a tiny cost in the total cost of having a decent country worth living
in John. And sure beats having to pay the MUCH higher cost of repairing
the place after entire city blocks have been put to the torch too.

RS> Sure, I'm not saying that the gun laws make sense, I agree that
RS> they make no sense whatever. We were however discussing whether
RS> CHANGES are possible in the law if enough people want the change.
RS> The gun laws are an absolutely classic example of CHANGES John.

JT> Fair enough, I see your point on this matter.  I wasn't happy the
JT> system does not always work like it should but we can't have everything...

Yep, we aint invented a better way. We are one of a TINY handful of
countrys that have managed a pretty decent stable society for 100 years
or more class time now. Thru some extremely stringent tests. It WORKS.
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