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to: BO SIMONSEN
from: BOB GEARHART
date: 2003-04-24 17:06:00
subject: Web differences

Bo Simonsen said to Bob Gearhart at 04-24-03  15:35
 Subject: a little manipulation/Aug
 
 Hi Bo.

 BS> 23 Apr 03 21:50, you wrote to me:
 
 BS>> It's long time ago i had a analouge modem. I've ADSL now, but
 BS>> before i've ISDN. If i couldn't get ADSL, i would really like to
 BS>> have ISDN. I know it's expensive in the US, but not in my
 BS>> country.

 In the US, ISDN isn't that popular for web surfing.  It's used mostly
 in businesses where one data line and one voice line share a phone
 and computer terminal.   Both lines top out at 64K because they are
 just two T1 channels, but they can be used together. DSL here usually
 runs at 784K and is priced at 50 bucks, There are slower and faster
 versions of DSL at altered rates.  I use a cable modem and the
 differences are not that much until the traffic turns up. During the
 busy time of the day, my downloads can drop to 200k or so as everyone on
 the cable shares the data path. The more users using it, the slower it
 becomes for any one user.  DSL on the other hand is private link to the
 phone company and is almost always at the speed you purchased.  A
 business where connection and up time are important would be much
 better off using DSL. A random user who plays, like me, is better off
 on a cable modem.  They don't lose money during slow downs.  Cable
 modems are the same price as DSL if you don't buy your cable TV from
 the same source.
 
 BS>> Dialup is more expensive, all calls costs me 0,25 DKR per minute
 BS>> (after 19.30 the half) and 0,25 DKR in transmission tax.

 Dial up in the Michigan area is $10 to $20 a month and speeds vary
 depending on how far you are from the central switching center.  The
 telephone lines are designed for 300 to 3000 hertz voice transmission
 and tested at a max of 2800 hertz.  Higher speed modems achieve that
 speed by sending pulses riding on a 1200 hertz signal.  Sounds wacky I
 know but they have been doing it that way since the first 9600 bps
 modems came out.   So long as you are in a "calling area" and have
 unlimited calls there is no per call charge.  Telephone bills around
 here run in the neighborhood of $30 a month, not ISP service just phone
 service.  In England and much of Europe I believe you pay both the
 originating and terminating charges, so are charged on a per call
 basis.  You guys are newer at this stuff than we are.  Your telephone
 systems were never privately owned before, now they are, and everyone
 wants to have their fingers in the pie.

 For a long time the phone system in the states was owned by one large
 company so they did both the originating and terminating. Then one of
 the large company representatives was caught in bed with an Attorney
 Generals wife and Bobby Kennedy filed suit to break up the government
 regulated monopoly. Now the same company and the same people are still
 providing the phone service, but we have competition. The names have
 changed but the physical hardware hasn't.  Now the original companies
 are required to lease equipment and lines to a competitor. If the phone
 doesn't work, the original company still sends out the same person he
 would have anyway to fix it, the thing the competitor does is to bill
 the consumer, remove his cut from the bill and send the rest on to the
 original company.  Boils down to, now you have to pay two people to do
 the same job one did before, and you receive exactly the same service,
 but there is competition.
 
 BG>  Pictures on line are displayed as quickly as they would appear if
 BG>  they are loaded locally of my hardrive.  The only way to fly if it's
 BG>  available.

 BS> Nice :)

 Yes isn't it.  I make videos and like to watch what others are doing
 online. I can get a large sharp picture running smoothly without
 pauses.  If it wasn't for that I don't believe I would be as thrilled
 with the high speed stuff.

 Take care Bo

 Bobfer





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