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echo: askacop
to: RYAN BAGUEROS
from: BOB RUDOLPH
date: 1998-04-17 09:46:00
subject: Re: choices in amerikka

 RB> RT> you think a particular law is right, YOU make the choice to abide by 
 RB> RT> or break it.  If you decide to use drugs for whatever reasons, YOU 
 RB> RT> decide to take the consequences of getting caught.
 RB> But, on the other hand, I DON'T have a choice in whether it is illegal 
or 
 RB> not?
I can't believe what I'm reading here...
 RB> Please. A ridiculous argument. While the executive branches of 
government 
 RB> do 
 RB> not pass laws, they certainly influence the lawmakers, through FOP 
 RB> lobbying, 
 RB> etc. Who do you think has more influence - the filthy rich drug 
 RB> enforcement 
 RB> coffers, intent on perpetuating the drug war, or a grassroots pro-drug 
 RB> group?
Well, in Colombia the pro-drug folks haven't done badly - maybe you wanna 
consider going there?
 RB> In case you hadn't noticed, there is a severe shortage of quality, 
 RB> inexpensive 
 RB> housing in this country, especially in the city. Finding a lease-less 
 RB> apartment
 RB> is nearly impossible.
A situation brought about by tenants who are not responsible. Are you trying 
to say that expecting you to make and to keep a contract is unjust?  
 RB> It isn't ring around the rosy. The question is, if it is my FAULT that I 
 RB> would 
 RB> be arrested for carrying a joint, because it was my choice to carry a 
 RB> joint, by
 RB> the same token, it would be a black person's FAULT if they decided to 
 RB> break a 
 RB> racist law. Yes? Or no? The point I'm making is that because you break a 
 RB> law 
 RB> does not necessarily mean it is your FAULT for getting arrested. 
THIS is horseshit of the purest ray serene.  You KNOW it is illegal, you 
CHOOSE to do it anyhow - now you want it to be someone else's fault that you 
got yourself arrested?
 RB>                                                             If the 
 RB> laws are unjust to begin with, it is the government's fault.
'unjust' is a null term - hard to quantify. It sounds to me like you think 
anything you don't LIKE is unjust.
 RB> Yeah, well I know plenty of kids who work at Kroger's (or something like 
 RB> it) after school, and *still* commit crimes like drug dealing 
 RB> because Kroger's doesn't pay enough.
What's 'enough' - and where does a 13-year-old, who contributes only labor 
(and damn little of that) get off telling the guy that has put a life into 
his 
business that he's worth more because he feels that way? Can it be that that 
13-year-old has a few unrealistic expectations of what he ought to have?
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