-=> Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

 DC> OK, so I take it you're like the Zone 2 folks who will resist all
 DC> change, regardless of merit?

 NA> Its real easy to write me off as someone reisting change, when I
 NA> have done more to help people here and in "real life" than you
 NA> can ever understand. I guess I just do not see the merit in me
 NA> being ZC1 and have to tell others that you must migrate to my
 NA> zone, or be left behind for historial/sentimental reasons as you
 NA> say.

Wow... I didn't mean to sound like I was "writing you off" there, 
cowboy, and meant no offense.  I certainly never said anything 
about you helping others.

 NA> Cue to the Zone-wars all over again... and if not me, well then
 NA> get Ward to move everyone from Zone 1 to Zone 2. Oh you Eurotrash
 NA> socialist shit-pig pussy, Europe sucks, nobody will tell me how
 NA> to run my system, and I can't believe Nick is going along with
 NA> this, blah blah blah.

Yes, I get that.  Probably a no-win situation, the more I think 
about it.

 NA> Maybe those who see merit in this little utopian exodus
 NA> fantasy-land of "One zone to rule them all" should've first
 NA> Netmailed the ZC's to see how we felt? Share some stories one on
 NA> one without know-it-alls or trolls chiming in? Get some friendly
 NA> insight?

Well, at least two of the ZC's were right here having the 
conversation in public.  Yes, there could have been some private 
messages, but didn't really seem to be needed (yet).

 NA> You know what idea I would seriously get behind? BETTER SOFTWARE
 NA> for newcomers, instead of masturbatory zone-ruling fantasies.

I'm not even sure what that last part is supposed to mean, but yes 
I think the need for better software was part of the original 
focus of this whole conversation, among other things.  In my take 
on it, the whole problem is how deeply ingrained the idea of 
keeping everything the same is.  Nobody seems to WANT anything to 
change, INCLUDING THE SOFTWARE, and the cumbersome/difficult 
procedures for getting information on how to join FidoNet.

Honestly, the whole condensing the Zones into a single one is a 
secondary and minor factor in all this.  Let's try to re-focus on 
how to make it easier to join FidoNet in order to help it survive.

Regards and Cheers.



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