Mulling over Rene Laederach to Steve Asher 16 Aug 2003

Hi Rene

 RL> Pro-gun circles here have proven that at least 20 deaths could have
 RL> been prevented in the last 3 years. Our authorities, however,
 RL> prefer to sleep and wait until something else happens.

We had the Port Arthur massacre in 1996, & supposedly the national
gun laws & gun buyback schemes were to minimise the risk of similar
things happening. I don't know that I feel any safer as a result,
particularly with all the stuff about bin Laden, Bali, 9/11 etc
that has happened since then. It almost seems that the powers that
be here want a major terrorist attack to justify their crack down
on civil liberties.

SA> The government here has suddenly found that students (and parents)
SA> assault school teachers, which means that, rather than making use
SA> of existing laws against assault causing actual bodily harm etc,
SA> they need a new set of laws to "protect" teachers, police on duty,
SA> firemen etc from aggravated assault.

 RL> To what use? The teachers could prevent being assaulted by getting
 RL> the means to beat the beejesus out of kids that want to hit 
 RL> teachers. Here, we had a few incidents of this sort as well. Some 
 RL> teachers changed, they tried to assault small guy with 
 RL> nickel-framed glases and THEN found out what he did for a living 
 RL> before becoming teacher.

Did he remain a teacher after they tried to assault him, or was he
dismissed for assaulting his assailants?

SA> Digressing, I'm just hearing news from the Northern Territory that
SA> legislation has been passed forbidding the use of still or motion
SA> pictures of Uluru / Ayers Rock etc without paying a permit for the
SA> privilege. A bit like travelling to London & finding that you can
SA> look at the Tower Bridge, but forget about taking pics of it.

 RL> Looks to me like a revolution from time to time wouldn't hurt. At
 RL> any rate, the  Aussie politicians need to be lined up, and then 
 RL> we give out free ammo. Probably the only way to sanitize the 
 RL> govermnents.

SA> image of Ayers Rock & facing a $50,000 fine. Words don't fail me, 
SA> but they are largely unprintable. :)

 RL> Ever watched "Hunt for Red October"? What did the Russian captain
 RL> say in the end when he was sitting together in the boat with Ryan?

I have seen it, but can't recall the scene. 

SA> Same with the Anthrax. There is evidence that the White House went on
SA> Cipro beginning September 11, 2001, when the first Anthrax "attack"
SA> wasn't reported for nearly another month. "Judicial Watch" is asking
SA> "What was known, and when?"

 RL> If it's the ruling class that is to be protected. Gun Carry permits
 RL> in NY city?  Not for the peons. CCWs in San Diego? Dianne 
 RL> Feinstein and Barbara Boxer have them? Are they better than those 
 RL> that elected them?

Law makers don't make laws for themselves. As with any limp attempt
at "privacy" laws, anti-spam laws etc, politicians make sure that
they & their parties are free to spam, using the lawfully collected
information in the electoral rolls. I'm sure they would all have the
"suppressed" entries that are unavailable to the majority.

 RL> Judicial watch will ask, but not receive answers unless the
 RL> American  political system undergoes deep changes. Just having a 
 RL> democrat president is not what I mean.

A good start would be for the Americans to realise that the rest of
the world doesn't necessarily want their version of "democracy"
forced upon it at the point of a cruise missile.

Cheers, Steve..

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