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echo: philos
to: FRANK MASINGILL
from: DAY BROWN
date: 1997-12-25 22:36:00
subject: Random shit

 On 12-22-97 Frank Masingill wrote to DAY BROWN... 
 FM>    Let me see if I understand you, Day.  Or you indicating that a 
 FM> computer is 
 FM> a reasonable model or even the semblance of a model for the universe?  
yep. 
 FM>    BTW, Day, how do you describe "perfect chaos?"   
That is the problem. the more I think on it, the less possible 
that such a thing exists now, or ever did.  If there is a perfect 
chaos, then no order would evolve in it. 
 
 FM> By "universe" I would mean ALL THAT IS.   
Excluding all that *was*, or all that *will* be?  All that *is* 
has patterns that we organize by conceptualizing them along a 
timeline.  Whether the past existed or not is not the point, it 
is the way to organize what we see that counts. 
 
You see yourself in a body that seems to have existed for several 
decades; you find it operates in ways consistent with that way of 
looking at it. You, and I, and the whole universe may have been 
created just last week, just as we find ourselves.  But as to the 
functionality, we find it pragmatic to see the universe as some 
15 billion, or whatever years old, and gives us expectations of 
what we can do with what we got, a way to organize what we see. 
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