>> But ya know I think the two phenomena (seeing/hearing
 >> things as though
 >> they were external and imagination) are very much
 >> related.


 >> :) There. That settles that ...

 >  BM> Nope.  Doesn't. :)  I think we will have to agree to disagree on this
 >  BM> one, at least for the moment, because, as I said elsewhere, many times
 >  BM> I have to stop up my ears in order to determine whether I am actually


 >  I understand that. What I was driving at was the
 > distinction between
 >  what is called a hallicination (percieving a memory
 > image as being
 > external) <-- that's putting it better I htink! :)
 > .... and a meory
 > image we percieve only in our mind and NOT externally
 > at all.

 > Head noises can have internal causes other than by
 > memory images
 > (there's a term for memory images but I can't recall
 > how to spell it
 > right now). Blood rushing by the bone that carries the
 > otic nerves
 > pics up the sound via vibration. You notice this
 > internal sound most
 > likely say when your heart is pounding.

 > I agree the internal sound can be loud. But they're
 > not all
 > 'imagined'.. some are actually caused by physical
 > structures inside
 > our bodies....

Oh, I would say that the only sounds that are imagined are the ones that
you wilfully imagine.  I am not at all saying that head noises are not
real; I agree that they are real. I would also say that hallucinations are
"real," in that you perceive them involuntarily, and they are not
caused (usually) by external stimuli.


 >  BM> hearing an external noise. I can, of course, "hear in my
mind's ear"
 >  BM> any noise or music I wish, at will, which, I believe we agree, is
 >  BM> imagination.  I do also have head noises that I know without testing
 >  BM> are involuntary head noises and not external noises.

 >  Exactly but that isn't a'hallucination' because you
 > don't percieve it
 > as exteranl.

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