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echo: consprcy
to: Steve Asher
from: Rene Laederach
date: 2003-08-16 12:16:46
subject: Re: UK ID Cards To Cost 39 Pounds?

Steve Asher wrote to Rene Laederach:

SA>  RL> Another way to do it. But since it's quite difficult to keep track
SA>  RL> of  millions of guns (just look at Canada and their gun 
SA>  RL> registration failure), it's far easier to ban them. And also, 
SA>  RL> with hysterical newscasts, you can sure make the sheeple snitch 
SA>  RL> on their neighbor who kept a single-barrel 12-gauge behind the 
SA>  RL> door.
SA> 
SA> Here's a novel concept. Why don't the governments and the courts 
SA> simply ensure that the multitude of existing laws are enforced, and 
SA> the prescribed penalties are imposed when someone is convicted?

Because judges are not elected by the people in most places, and politicians
that elect judges (at least here in Switzerland) need to be relected. They 
can
do that best by enacting knee-jerk legislation, like new gun laws.

Pro-gun circles here have proven that at least 20 deaths could have been
prevented in the last 3 years. Our authorities, however, prefer to sleep and
wait until something else happens.
  
SA> The government here has suddenly found that students (and parents)
SA> assault school teachers, which means that, rather than making use
SA> of existing laws against assault causing actual bodily harm etc,
SA> they need a new set of laws to "protect" teachers, police on duty,
SA> firemen etc from aggravated assault.

To what use? The teachers could prevent being assaulted by getting the means 
to
 beat the beejesus out of kids that want to hit teachers. Here, we had a few
incidents of this sort as well. Some teachers changed, they tried to assault 
small guy with nickel-framed glasses and THEN found out what he did for
a living before becoming teacher.

SA> Digressing, I'm just hearing news from the Northern Territory that
SA> legislation has been passed forbidding the use of still or motion
SA> pictures of Uluru / Ayers Rock etc without paying a permit for the
SA> privilege. A bit like travelling to London & finding that you can
SA> look at the Tower Bridge, but forget about taking pics of it.

Looks to me like a revolution from time to time wouldn't hurt. At any rate, 
the
 Aussie politicians need to be lined up, and then we give out free ammo.
Probably the only way to sanitize the govermnents.

SA> image of Ayers Rock & facing a $50,000 fine. Words don't fail me, 
SA> but they are largely unprintable. :)

Ever watched "Hunt for Red October"? What did the Russian captain
say in the
end when he was sitting together in the boat with Ryan?
 
SA> Same with the Anthrax. There is evidence that the White House went on
SA> Cipro beginning September 11, 2001, when the first Anthrax "attack"
SA> wasn't reported for nearly another month. "Judicial Watch" is asking
SA> "What was known, and when?"

If it's the ruling class that is to be protected. Gun Carry permits in NY 
city?
 Not for the peons. CCWs in San Diego? Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer 
have
them? Are they better than those that elected them?

Judicial watch will ask, but not receive answers unless the American 
political
system undergoes deep changes. Just having a democrat president is not what I
mean.
   


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