TIP: Click on subject to list as thread! ANSI
echo: askacop
to: TOM RIGHTMER
from: STEVE KEMP
date: 1998-04-21 10:40:00
subject: Legality of Commandeering

TR> SK> And then I'd pay the silly little fine. It's as if you think
TR> SK> disobeying  a cops order would land me in jail...I doubt it. But
TR> SK> if I did..well, I'd  at least still be true to my convictions
TR> SK> (no pun intended).
TR>It probably would land you in jail,
And, as I said, I would still be true to my convictions.
Unjust laws SHOULD be broken.
TR> and you wouldn't be doing anything noble or patriotic, just the
TR> opposite.
In your less than reasonable, and reasoned, opinion.
TR> You would be obstructing justice at the very least,
What justice would that be? Being forced from my own vehicle under 
threat of imprisonment, or immediate physical punishment, so it can 
effectively be stolen and used in a hazardous manner is justice?
TR> nothing to be proud of.
Law and order doesn't mean bending over.
That's my pride talking.
If you think giving your rights and freedoms away is noble...then enjoy.
A nice little communist, fascist, or totalitarian state may be your 
preference, but I'd rather live free. Too many people have died to 
create a free society for me to agree with giving away our freedoms 
,without a fight,...all in the guise of "justice" (or victim's rights).
And this free society is STILL evolving. The fight ain't over. 
Some reactionaries would rather we go back to a more heavy handed 
government, all in some demented idea that this would make the U.S. a 
safer, honorable, and more free and just place. All I can say is BULL! 
Authoritarian rule is authoritarian rule...no matter what the 
motivation.
If an actual emergency were to need my involvement I would get involved.
The point is, _I_ will decide what is worthy... _I_ will help to my 
fullest if _I_ see a good and just cause. A person in a uniform is just 
a person in a uniform..no better and no worse. They definitely don't 
have any legal or moral basis to decide when or what I should do in such
cases. And they shouldn't be given license to be above the law...and 
neither should the law. The Constitution is the law. I believe it has 
been perverted in this case (commandeering). So, I'll stand against an 
unjust law. THAT is something to be proud of! To fight injustice is 
GOOD, not bad. Sorry, I shant be a sheep-person. I WILL NOT be deprived 
of my Constitutional rights just because some hot dog has watched too 
many Dirty Harry movies.
You see the whole REALLY silly part of this whole "you'll go to jail if 
you don't surrender your car to the cops" is that I THOUGHT THIS COP WAS
IN A HURRY! Obviously not, if he (or she) has time to arrest me. Why 
doesn't he (or her) take YOUR car...or someone else's...or go back to 
their squad car and call for back-up. Arresting me does ZIP to catch the
perp.
If you think cops car-jacking people is a good tack to catch a car-
jacker (for instance)...is raping someone to catch a rapist O.K.? How 
about murdering someone to catch a murderer?
This isn't too far off base (although I'm obviously being 
rhetorical)..because the police sell crack to people and then bust those
people for buying it. Rather crazy, since selling drugs is a far more 
criminal act than buying them. But this kind of thing shows an "above 
the law" mindset. A mindset that is dangerous.
Police are NOT above the law, and they AREN'T the law (well, at least 
they SHOULDN'T be). They are empowered to protect and serve the PEOPLE. 
The people are the boss, not the police...and the Constitution is the 
law. The basic tenet's of it are pretty damned noble. Yes sir, I like'm,
because they address and codify basic freedoms for all of us. To subvert
those basic tenet's for simplistic and selfish reasons make us all less 
free.
---
þ CMPQwk #1.42þ The march towards a fascist state is often reached 
through tiny little goose steps.
---------------
* Origin: Cyber Bytes BBS * Antelope, Ca * (916) 334-1449 (1:203/127)

SOURCE: echomail via exec-pc

Email questions or comments to sysop@ipingthereforeiam.com
All parts of this website painstakingly hand-crafted in the U.S.A.!
IPTIA BBS/MUD/Terminal/Game Server List, © 2025 IPTIA Consulting™.