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from: Michael
date: 2003-04-30 00:30:00
subject: Re: Jim Ross quit?

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Wildwood wrote:

> Finally...  Michael  has come back to
> rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated...
> 
> 
>>
>>Hack-Man wrote:
>>
>>>Gottfried Janik  wrote:
>>>| Michael wrote:
>>>| > Gottfried Janik wrote:
>>>| > | >>Last Tuesday here in Germany they Show Raw.
And there Jim Ross, is this 
>>>| >>for real?
>>>| > | > Nope.  It's an angle (and so was SCSA's
"firing" for that matter).  JR 
>>>| > got a little more legit-sounding emotion than most into
his "I Quit" 
>>>| > speech, though.  Might be because Bischoff is not
well-liked backstage.
>>>| 
>>>| Thanks alot, The King and JR are great Commentators, tbe Commentators 
>>>| here in Germany are not so good. 
>>>
>>>Worse than Jim Ross?  Now I *really* feel sorry for you.
>>
>>So, in you honest opinion, who's a good commentator?
>>
>>Michael
> 
> 
> Currently, Joey Styles and Mike Tenay have very different styles, but
> both are very good.   As a team, Tazz and Cole are the best, IMO.

I like Tenay better as a color commentator, but I haven't heard his NWA 
stuff.

As I said in another post, Tazz & Cole are better than Ross & Lawler, 
but they'got far better stuff to call most weeks.  C'mon!  Calling a Rey 
vs. Jamie Noble match has to be better than 3H vs. anyone!

:)

> The late Gordon Solie, pre-WWF Jim Ross and "Cowboy" Bill Watts (he
> did commentary as well as color) are "old-style" favorites.
> 
> What do they all have in common?  None of them insult my intelligence,
> they treat the match in the ring as important, and they call the
> moves.

I get the feeling that not treating the match as THE important thing of 
the moment is more a dictate from On High than a choice of the 
commentators themselves.  Remember those who said that Eric Bischoff 
didn't clue the commentators in on what was gonna happen so they'd react 
to it more honestly?  That'd take away a lot of the ability to do more 
than report what moves were being used.

> They all do/did their homework and injected the psychology of
> the match at hand.  They don't blather on and on selling (house
> shows/PPVs/merchandise depending on the era) during matches (that's
> what the segments between matches are for).  If the product is good
> and well-presented (and a part of that is the commentator), it will
> sell itself and people will buy the PPV/merchandise/house show ticket.
> They offer details the viewer might miss or not know about without
> talking down to the listener.  They don't attempt to get themselves
> over instead of the performers.

Aside from Mark Madden and, at times, Lawler, does anyone else do this?

> It's too bad that most of the current crop of announcers are told to
> treat evry show/PPV/segment as "the greatest in the history of"
> "PUPPIES!"

True.

Michael


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