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echo: rberrypi
to: STEPHEN PELC
from: GARETH`S DOWNSTAIRS COMPU
date: 2018-06-29 15:06:00
subject: Re: OT again : FORTH

On 29/06/2018 14:53, Stephen Pelc wrote:
> What is this fascination with exclamation marks, sweetchunks?
> Crikey, no two C compilers are the same and they have different
> undefined behaviours! Stop using C immediately. There's a whole
> world out there that does not use gcc or FOSS tools.
> There are a few (three or four) professional grade implementations,
> and a huge number of amateur implementations that end up as
> abandonware after a few years.
> The vast majority of the amateur implementations are threaded code
> systems as descibed in Loeliger's book. However, for the last 20 years
> or so, the professional implementation generate optimised native code.
> These implementations follow the ANS 1994 and Forth-2012 standards.
> Compared to other minority languages, Forth has survived very well.
> Our cross compilers for embedded systems include USB and TCP/IP
> stacks. We have been doing what is now called IoT for 20 years.
> Very few users of professional Forth systems lurk or post on
> comp.lang.forth.
> P.S. Please note that I prefer to be collaborative as more information
> is exchanged than in a combative debating style. It's not a matter
> of winning or losing, but of providing correct information. After
> that it's down to philosophy and taste, which are worth discussing.
> P.P.S. If you want to know how CREATE ... DOES> works in a modern
> system such as VFX, download one of the Linux or Windows evaluation
> versions, and decompile the results. If you have forgotten how to
> use Forth, see our Forth books page.

Oh, dear !

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