On 10 Mar 2019, mark lewis said the following...
 
 ml>  On 2019 Mar 10 19:46:52, you wrote to me:
 ml> 
 ml>  ml>> yes, really...
 ml> 
 ml>  BF>    So, what happens when you click on e.g. fidonews.eu?
 ml> 
 ml> click it where? how can you click on something in an 80x25 ASCII
 ml> terminal???
 ml> 
 ml>  BF> What if you choose "Check it out anonymously"? Wouldn't that be your
 ml>  BF> very first choice if you were new to our network?
 ml> 
 ml> nope 'cause it wouldn't be being seen like you are assuming it would
 ml> be...
 ml> 
 ml>  BF>    Where's the catch-22 there?
 ml> 
 ml> completely forget that you know anything at all about fidonet... you
 ml> don't have a clue what echomail or netmail is... no idea what a "mailer"
 ml> or "tosser" are... now try to figure out how to join fidonet...
 ml> 
 ml>  BF> It seems like almost all of the remaining fidonet sysops, 95% or so,
 ml>  BF> seem to be what formerly was defined as point-ops, have forgotten tha
 ml>  BF> fidonet was originally a BBS-network:

Not the case here as I am the NC for all of New York.  Furthermore I do not
think this has ever been the case within the Empire_Net.

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