ml>  On 2019 Mar 10 18:31:48, you wrote to me:

 ml>>> how is someone going to find out about the stats echo in the first
 ml>>> place? catch-22...

 BF>>    Not really.

 ml> yes, really...

 BF>>    1) Hook up to a JamNNTPd based BBS nearby.

 ml> how? how can yo find them? catch-22 from the start...

 BF>>    2) Spend some time reading up on the echoes sounding relevant. And
 BF>> yes,
 BF>> I know that not all "moderators" are all too eager to name "their" echoes

 BF>> well. Their loss...

 BF>>    3) Register on said JamNNTPd based BBS and start asking questions.

 BF>>    The rest is a walk in the park, far from Catch-22.

 ml> you start with a double catch-22...

 ml>   1. newbies to fidonet won't even know what a JAMNNTPd server/BBS
 ml> is...
 ml>   2. where are they going to find these JAMNNTPd systems...

Do they need to know?  Is it essential to know this to obtain a node number and
get connected to Fidonet?  I think not. 


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