Hello Steve,

>SA>framing others for them. The US / CIA will set up proxy forces,
>SA>sometimes funded from the proceeds of criminal activity, such
>SA>as the Contras in Nicaragua, & use them to commit unspeakable
>SA>acts upon the civilian population. They "use terror to traumatize
>SA>society so that it cannot function".

>LL>America is making the world safe for democracy.

SA>America is making the world "safe" for its corporations.

And MNC's (Multi-National Corporations), most of which are owned/run
by American corporations.

>SA>E.g. John Stockwell, 13 year CIA veteran & former U.S. Marine
>SA>Corps Major, is recorded as saying that [Contras] "go into villages
>SA>... With the children forced to watch, they castrate the father ...
>SA>peel the skin off his face ... put a grenade in his mouth, and pull
>SA>the pin ... gang-rape the mother, and slash her breasts off ... and
>SA>sometimes, for variety ... they do these things to the children."

>LL>America is making the world safe for democracy.

>SA>A search on "Nicaragua terror attacks CIA" etc will turn up rafts
>SA>of info on their heinous deeds.

>LL>See what I mean?  America is making the world safe for democracy.

>SA>The scenario for Cuba involved portraying the Cuban government as
>SA>"rash and irresponsible, and as an alarming and unpredicatble
>SA>threat to the peace of the Western Hemisphere"
>SA>( http://emperors-clothes.com/images/north-2.htm )

>LL>Unlike Saddam Hussein in Iraq, Fidel Castro did in fact have WMDs
>LL>on Cuban soil.  Fortunately, JFK convinced Kruschev to remove the
>LL>missiles from Cuba before an American invasion was incurred.

>SA>Not quite true. The [unsuccessful] invasion of Cuba took place in
>SA>April 1961 ["Bay of Pigs"]; "Operation
Northwoods" is dated March
>SA>1962, nearly 12 months later; the Cuban Missile Crisis took place
>SA>in October 1962.

>LL>If America really wanted to invade Cuba, it could. And such an
>LL>invasion would not take long. Probably two days. Three days,
>LL>tops.

SA>I suspect the USA is content now to let nature take its course;
SA>Fidel will die of old age, & not CIA dirty tricks, & there will
SA>be a succession struggle which will probably embrace US "values".

Nah.  Fidel's brother, Raoul, will be happy to take his place.

>SA>I.e., if the USA had not attempted to invade Cuba, & not imposed
>SA>crippling sanctions upon it, including a ban on oil exports, it is
>SA>possible that the missile crisis would not have occurred. The US
>SA>invasion & sanctions had the effect of driving Cuba into the Soviet
>SA>sphere.

>LL>Get off it.  Cuban military forces are no match for American
>LL>military might. The American invasion of Iraq was akin to America
>LL>going to war against the Flintstones. An American invasion of Cuba
>LL>would amount to America going to war against Forrest Gump.

SA>The Flintstones are showing a reluctance to roll over & play dead
SA>at the feet of the invaders, so much so that the USA is calling on
SA>the UN & "old Europe" to do its duty & help rebuild
Iraq. France
SA>& Germany can scarcely conceal their delight at being shown to
SA>have been right to not rush in to Iraq.

Well, what do you expect with Captain Kangaroo in charge?
Thanks, Tom Friedman (Pulitzer-winning journalist for the New
York Times), for having originally described the invasion of
Iraq as America defeating the Flintstones, leaving Captain
Kangaroo in charge.

>SA>The US Government was prepared to initiate terror attacks upon
>SA>the USA "in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in
>SA>Washington", in order to frame the Communist Cubans, and the
>SA>plans included the hijacking of civilian aircraft.

>SA>( http://emperors-clothes.com/images/north-8.htm to north-10.htm )

>LL>Chuck Norris starred in a movie, "Invasion U.S.A.", based on the
>LL>same premise.  While such stories can play well in movie theaters,
>LL>in reality it is nothing but fantasy.

>LL>There are contingency plans for everything, including invading the
>LL>Vatican.  Not that a contingency plan means that it will in fact be
>LL>carried out.

>SA>The invasion of Cuba was carried out, although unsuccessfully.

>LL>Had any real invasion of Cuba been ordered, such an invasion would
>LL>have been extremely successful.

>SA>If you are interested, read the whole sordid document, which is
>SA>12 pages, plus introductions.

>LL>Contingency plans are one thing.  Actions taken are quite another.

>SA>See above. The US's hostile actions against sovereign nations speak
>SA>louder than its "contingency plans".

>LL>America has never lost a war.  Not even the Vietnam War.

SA>The Vietnamese appear to disagree, and as victors, they refer
SA>to it as the American War, and exhibit the apparatus that endeared
SA>the USA & its proxies to the population, like the mobile guillotines
SA>that were trundled around to assist with "pacifying" the locals.

No matter how long an invading army stays in a country, the people of
that country will always be there.  Even long after the invading army
has left.  That is what happened in Vietnam, and that is what is
happening in Iraq.

SA>Speaking of wars that America has never lost, how's the "War on
Drugs"
SA>going? And the "War on Terror"? It seems to me that opium production
SA>has hit top form in Afghanistan following the [partial] removal of
SA>the Taliban and the resurgence of the warlords.

Both the "War on Drugs" and the "War on Terror" are phony wars.
Even Ted Kennedy admitted that the war on Iraq (as part of the War
on Terror) was a fraudulent war.

--Lee


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