Q> I have seen the problem as exclusion of adult unattached women, but a
Q> male friend who has been actively church-hunting says he has the same
Q> problem, there is no place in the modern church for an unattached
Q> adult male of middle years, either.
Q>
Q> Sunday groups are for "young adults" or "married
couples" or "seniors"
Q> or "divorce recovery."  Where does the 30-60 year old
unmarried man or
Q> woman who is not suffering from divorce recovery belong?  In many
Q> churches, nowhere - I know because I keep asking, and I'm told to
Q> either join the divorce recovery group or I get a shrug and a more or
Q> less "you are the oddball so it's not our problem" dismissal.
Q>
Q> I have not seen that the church trying to attract women more than men.
Q>   To me, it still seem male-dominated, even though women have a
Q> somewhat more active place than in the 50s.
Q>
Q> So I'm curious in what ways you are seeing the churches make men feel
Q> un-included.
Q>
Q> True, I see a lot more women than men in mainline churches (and a more
Q> even balanced in conservative churches I've attended), but the
Q> mainline churches I attended in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, had far more
Q> women than men, so it doesn't seem to have changed much.

I've seen a lot of overt woman-centred programming focus in several different
denominations (usually, I assume, out of a nagging sense of guilt that women
have been so long DISplaced in the mainstream church (especially in leadership
roles, other than children's programming). . .

As a single young male(non-business class *G*) I was constantly falling through
the cracks in seeking some sort of mid-week group(s). . .

The rare men's group was generally a breakfast thing at a local restaurant,
where the working men would gather at 6:30am for breakfast/coffee/prayer

I was unemployed, so had no money to go to a restaurant, and my health was such
that being up that early wasn't generally an option.

But this is Canada, where there's been a 10+ year moratorium against hiring any
white males in the national police force!

So it stands to reason, sadly, in these secular times, that the churches would
have a like mindset!


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