Hello Bj”rn,

On Wednesday March 29 2017 12:44, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>> KPN (the old incumbent) has not mentioned an explicit date, but
 MvdV>> it is clear that they will fase out ISDN. No more new
 MvdV>> connections.

 BF>    Holy Crap! Is ISDN still working?

Yes. And relevant to the discussion at hand: it is still used by some in
Fidonet.

 BF> Over here in Sweden my dual ISDN line was cancelled more than a decade
 BF> ago.

I never had it. I would like to have had it 25 years ago, if only for the
ability to maintain two voice calls simultaneously, but it was not available in
my area back then. When it became avaiable a couple of years later, I no longer
needed two simultaneous calls and for data the added value over a 56K modem did
not justify the extra cost.

 BF>    It took me two individual copper pair of wires to get 2x64k ISDN.
 BF> Now I have a single pair of copper wires that gives me 8/1 ADSL. Same
 BF> wires.

 BF>    So who in his right mind would even consider ISDN nowadays?

Indeed, who still wants ISDN when you can have adsl?  (Or IP over cable, or
whatever)

 BF>    A blast from the past, no doubt...

Yes. But doesn't that apply to Fidonet as a whole as well?

Cheers, Michiel

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