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Tracy Hall wrote:
> on Feb 11, 2005, at 1:58 pm gpat...{at}bayou.com wrote:
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> >>> Tracy Hall wrote:
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> >> I believe that Jesus was the only exception. The saints,
> >> including Job and others to whom the scriptures refer
> >> as "perfect of heart," "perfect in their
generation,"
> >> etc., surely sinned at some point in their life.
>
> > OK, but as for me, I will stick with the story of Job as
> > told in scripture. If the author of the book of Job had wanted
> > us to think that Job sinned, he would not have said twice
> > that Job was perfect, upright and unlike any other person
> > on earth. Why not just accept the story of Job as is? I look
> > at it this way: If scripture seems to not be compatible with
> > doctrine, rather than modify scripture, it is better
> > [to] modify doctrine.
>
> I do believe that Job was perfect, upright, and unlike any
> other person *at the time of the scriptural account.* But
> Paul says that all [but Christ] have sinned. (Rom. 3:10,
> 23; 5:12) I don't want to defend any doctrine, but I do seek for
> harmony in the scriptures. So it seems to me, If all have
> sinned at some point in their lives, then Job must have
> committed some kind of sin earlier in his life.
An interesting thought just came to mind. Satan did not seem to know
of Job's past sin, as he did not mention it when God was telling Satan
what a fine man Job was. I guess then if Job sinned, it must have been
a sin that Satan did not have anything to do with - or else it was such
a small sin that Satan had just forgot about it. ;-)
If Job was on trial for sinning and I was on the jury, based on the
evidence [God's defense (Job chapters 1 & 2) and Paul's observations
(Romans chapters 3& 5) as an expert witness on sin (I Tim. 1:15)] as a
member of the jury, I would not be able to convict Job.
> Then, prior
> to our joining his story, Job must have exercised faith in
> Christ, repented of his sins, and been sanctified through the
> Gospel, thereby becoming of "good report." (Heb. 11)
>
> Whatever Job's condition was long before we join his
> story, surely the grace of Christ was sufficient for him,
> as it was for Paul, the confessed sinner. (2 Cor. 12: 9)
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