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from: Matthew Johnson matthew_
date: 2005-02-20 01:25:00
subject: Re: Was Jesus born perfect?

In article , lsenders{at}hotmail.com
says...

>Tracy Hall wrote:
>> On Feb 13, 2005, at 5:11 pm, Matthew Johnson wrote
>>
>> 
>>
>> > I see, Tracy, that this is but one example of a very sad trend
>> > you have displayed in your posts: you keep seeing things that
>> > are NOT in the text, then proclaiming with great certainty that
>> > they really are there. This habit will only bring you grief.
>>
>SNIP
>>
>> If, when all things are revealed, we learn that Job was, in fact,
>> completely innocent and without sin throughout his entire life, then
>I
>> will rejoice for him.
>>
>But that is not what is taught in Job.

Yes, it is.

>  What is revealed is that Job,
>like all men after the fall, acted selfishly, that is, he operated as
>all men do after the fall.

No, that is not in the book at all.

>  Job was guilty of  the error of assuming
>that the universe operated according to a principle of rationality.

What a _dazzling_ display of eisegesis! What fictional "principle of
rationality" are you attributing to a man of Job's pre-rationalist era?

>The consuming passion of Job for vindication suddenly presented itself
>as ludicrous once he is placed in God's presence.

First of all, you have _severly_ misunderstoo waht Job's "consuming
passion" was
for, but even worse, you have failed to understand the real reason Job was so
satisfied with the theophany.

>Job repented of his misconception of God,

No, he 'repented' of NOTHING, because he had NOTHING to repent of. You are
relying on a theologically biased translation of Job 42:7.

>not of any alleged sin of commission on which
>his three friends had focused.  To think wrongly of God is to be guilty
>of the very essence of idolatry.

In that case, you should be trembling.


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